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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 20, 2023 13:38:16 GMT
I think the fairly unsubtle message behind the film Independence Day was that if humankind finally got confirmation that we were not alone in the universe, we might start to appreciate that we are all one people, sharing the same ball of rock travelling through space, so some good might come of it. the only message that film brought me was the one i’vecalways said, which is that an alien civilisation coming here wants one or more of our air, our water, our land, or the biomass across the planet. Which includes us. And i strongly doubt any unity of purpose in what happens next. Almost every ELE film has a tiny elite surviving it usually at the expense of others. I can hear the ‘we’re all in the same boat’ bullshit being delivered by whoever Sunak has left to die at tbe podium right now
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 20, 2023 14:07:14 GMT
If they are that technically advanced, why would we be of interest to them? As has been pointed out, we would likely be as interesting to them and as worthy of their time as various forms of insect life in the Amazon forest are considered worthy of our consideration. We are being secretly filmed for a galaxy wide reality TV show.
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Post by Orac on Dec 20, 2023 14:35:25 GMT
Such a notion should be unsettling. It would mean that everything you think you know is almost certainly false.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 20, 2023 14:53:07 GMT
Such a notion should be unsettling. It would mean that everything you think you know is almost certainly false. Or we have lost the ability to push the boundaries. Stuck on a roundabout perhaps.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 20, 2023 15:52:43 GMT
If they are that tecnically advanced, why would we be of interest to them? As has been pointed out, we would likely be as interesting to them and as worthy of their time as various forms of insect life in the Amazon forest are considered worthy of our consideration. I don't buy into this advanced lifeform guff. Think about it, they travel billions of lightyears across the galaxy and with all of planet earth to choose from then decide to end up in Roswell, New Mexico. FFS, even people who live in New Mexico don't go to Roswell...
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Post by Bentley on Dec 20, 2023 16:37:22 GMT
I read somewhere that the first ‘Alien’ encounter will not be with aliens at all. They will be demons . The idea is that man will embrace them and this will initiate Armageddon. These something for everyone in alien conspiracies.
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Post by Orac on Dec 20, 2023 16:55:11 GMT
I read somewhere that the first ‘Alien’ encounter will not be with aliens at all. They will be demons . The idea is that man will embrace them and this will initiate Armageddon. These something for everyone in alien conspiracies. The aliens will be our AI
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 19:30:27 GMT
As we have advanced technologically, we have acquired weapons of ever greater destructive power, and for decades now have had the ability to wipe ourselves out. Any aliens who come here would have to have developed much higher levels of technology to have been able to do so. And presumably could if they had wanted to to have developed even greater technological weapons of mass destruction. Yet the very fact that they are so technologically advanced means that they must have avoided using such destructive weapons against each other even if they developed them. So I suspect for that reason they are likely to be, or have at least evolved or learned to be, less warlike and destructive than us.
For that reason, I would tend not to fear them, confident that had they wished to destroy us they probably could already have done so. I would be fascinated, awe-inspired and intensely curious about them and excited to learn of their existence. But I would not fear them unless they did something to give me cause to. I would tend to have assumed that to have survived to such technological advancement that they would be spiritually and morally, as well as intellectually and technologically, more advanced than us.
Any species with the technological ability to come here is unlikely to have come to wage a war of conquest, enslavement, or genocide. If they were that aggressively inclined they would probably have wiped each other out long before now.
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Post by bancroft on Dec 20, 2023 19:51:04 GMT
The aliens have gone, and won't come back any time soon they have obliterated their own societies through their equivalence of nuclear war and gone back hundreds of years in tech.
They used to come through wormholes and stargates.
Fortunately we are clueless in this regards still sending rockets into the vacuum of space.
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Post by besoeker3 on Dec 20, 2023 20:32:21 GMT
I can see visiting aliens viewing the Earth as a resource. Even if it’s not at first . You can guarantee that dinosaur mutilations happened thousands of years before recent cattle mutilations. 🤔 … when you are travelling thru the cold barren wastelands of space in huge motherships … truck stop Earth 53.0 is a welcome relief for getting fresh water onboard and a nice juicy fresh natural steak … far better cooked French Michelin chef-style … than engineered by an AI droid in Zod’s lab on deck 37.🙄 My guess is there are thousands of engineered Earth’s all over the Universe … just for this purpose.So, have you seen any in real life?
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 20, 2023 21:16:48 GMT
You can guarantee that dinosaur mutilations happened thousands of years before recent cattle mutilations. 🤔 … when you are travelling thru the cold barren wastelands of space in huge motherships … truck stop Earth 53.0 is a welcome relief for getting fresh water onboard and a nice juicy fresh natural steak … far better cooked French Michelin chef-style … than engineered by an AI droid in Zod’s lab on deck 37.🙄 My guess is there are thousands of engineered Earth’s all over the Universe … just for this purpose.So, have you seen any in real life? In every alien invasion film ever made it's always the crazy conspiracy theorist living in a cabin in the woods and trying to warn the world who turns out to be right. Dubs is our incoherent, tinfoil hat wearing nut job so we should really believe everything he ever says.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 20, 2023 21:23:14 GMT
You can guarantee that dinosaur mutilations happened thousands of years before recent cattle mutilations. 🤔 … when you are travelling thru the cold barren wastelands of space in huge motherships … truck stop Earth 53.0 is a welcome relief for getting fresh water onboard and a nice juicy fresh natural steak … far better cooked French Michelin chef-style … than engineered by an AI droid in Zod’s lab on deck 37.🙄 My guess is there are thousands of engineered Earth’s all over the Universe … just for this purpose.So, have you seen any in real life? How would you know if you have seen one? when we already have AI that can create fake humans?
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 20, 2023 21:30:52 GMT
If they are that tecnically advanced, why would we be of interest to them? As has been pointed out, we would likely be as interesting to them and as worthy of their time as various forms of insect life in the Amazon forest are considered worthy of our consideration. I don't buy into this advanced lifeform guff. Think about it, they travel billions of lightyears across the galaxy and with all of planet earth to choose from then decide to end up in Roswell, New Mexico. FFS, even people who live in New Mexico don't go to Roswell... Douglas Adams explained this perfectly
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 21, 2023 8:21:17 GMT
You can guarantee that dinosaur mutilations happened thousands of years before recent cattle mutilations. 🤔 … when you are travelling thru the cold barren wastelands of space in huge motherships … truck stop Earth 53.0 is a welcome relief for getting fresh water onboard and a nice juicy fresh natural steak … far better cooked French Michelin chef-style … than engineered by an AI droid in Zod’s lab on deck 37.🙄 My guess is there are thousands of engineered Earth’s all over the Universe … just for this purpose.So, have you seen any in real life? Aliens ? Or UFO’s ?? One of my radar systems on test repeatedly picked up one of the latter over several months of testing but when i stopped listening to the idiot project leader who whinged the system timestamps were buggered, and plotted the course and speed as if they were correct i THINK what i actually picked up was a Blackbird. I hope it was because they’re supposed to be bloody hard to spot and grandad would have been well chuffed had he been around to see me follow a family tradition. I MAY have seen one very near the ground about forty years ago but it was miles away and although a clear night i was looking right at a military test firing range in west wales so god knows what it really was. I think i’ve said on this site before that if one lands on my garden and the alien that gets out is anything like the one in the Levi’s ‘Babylon Zoo-Spaceman’ ad, i’m shagging it and to hell with the disease and radiation risk.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 21, 2023 9:00:50 GMT
I don't buy into this advanced lifeform guff. Think about it, they travel billions of lightyears across the galaxy and with all of planet earth to choose from then decide to end up in Roswell, New Mexico. FFS, even people who live in New Mexico don't go to Roswell... Douglas Adams explained this perfectly What was his explanation - SatNav playing up?
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