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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 12, 2024 10:17:34 GMT
I think a lot of anxiety around the ‘alien question’ comes from failure of Religion and Military Forces to educate the Public over all aspects of a very mysterious disturbing group of phenomena that questions our reality. Admittedly our reality has largely been created by their control of our Media … and what has slipped through the cracks of their censorship ~ but this phenomena questions our Laws of Physics taught in our best Schools and Universities … and really shows up our primitive grasp of Universal knowledge … so this Disclosure Project is going to need Science Education to engage and prepare for a complete RESET. …. Not something we should be too concerned about … science literature is constantly being rewritten … as is their version of our History … unfortunately. (It is puzzling the BBC and MSM still ignores the enormity of what is happening at this Congressional enquiry.) People who have been following the evidence dropped on the main ‘alien/UFO’ thread … will know that this phenomena encompasses both physical UFO craft and unique technology/propulsion systems … but ALSO energy/inter-dimensional aspects associated with ethereal/apparition observations … where our physical Universe is intruded on by entities both linked to known OCCULT history(devils, imps, ghosts, spirit entities) … but also possibly space/time travellers that can walk through anyone’s wall and immobilise us as we are sleeping. Abduction and assault, even murder and experimentation without permission is a concern … but ignorance and lack of openness and education by Authority is what bugs us more … being treated like we are idiots who cannot rationalise this new ‘reality’. Dedicated private researchers have had to do their own hard slog research into these varied fields … push against harassment and murder to get to this ‘tipping point’ … with little help from Authority or the scientific Establishment … in cahoots and kowtowing to Religious ‘controllers’. Lazy ignorant sceptics were also responsible for 70 years of scientific lethargy since WW2 … when it was finally clarified ‘foo fighters’ were ‘extra-terrestrial’ and the Germans had been flirting with Occult Forces and Extra-terrestrial technologies. reconditosite.wordpress.com/2017/05/04/die-glocke-test-facility/Note: the similarities between the Die Glocke secret Project… and the Kecksburg UFO … that crashed Dec 9th, 1965. The US Military soon moved in and removed it. It hasn’t been seen in public since. Surely time for this amazing machine … and ALL crashed/downed UFO’s and debris to be put on open permanent display in museums all around the World?? … and made available for ALL scientists to openly examine … so they can get ‘up to speed’ on the latest developments in Universal Physics and advanced technologies. … (it’s pretty embarrassing the average UFO researcher and Youtubers are better informed on alien technology than mainstream scientists today) www.wired.com/2007/10/nasa-opens-keck/Too little, too late(48years) for NASA to jump in and now investigate the Kecksburgh object … other researchers have already done the hard work … while NASA engaged in Cover-Up … when they should have been ‘educators’. Investigators in NASA shouldn’t be given any ‘confidential’ UFO files by UFO Researchers … they are likely to just ‘disappear’. NASA had compelling proofs of extra-terrestrial visitation to this planet - but failed to be open and Disclose … to assist SETI.NASA have done next to nothing to assist this current Disclosure Project. ‘Obstructive’ is a word that springs to mind.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 12, 2024 11:13:03 GMT
Some people think the Occult and the Alien/UFO Phenomena are entirely different. Personally, I think there is a stronger link than just Religion dabbling in trying to control both areas. Witness descriptions of some alien entities mirror many creatures associated with Heaven and Hell. The idea of portals and multiverses is gaining traction in science thinking today … as CERN pushes boundaries and the JWTP looks at dismantling many views how Universal forces configure. As our physical reality is questioned …could this Universe we are temporarily born into … and inhabit … just be a freakish anomaly? Is it easy for other entities to cross in and out of our physical world? … create effects and phenomena that stagger our minds … and question our sanity? Here is a small observation that I think is important … suggests to any scientist out there … that energy is being used here to cross the boundary between ‘our Universe’ and ‘their Universe’. Remember the UFO sighting below … that drew out this comment? …the Exeter(USA) Incident highlighted here: A multiple witness sighting … members of the public and several police officers. What is interesting about the above video report … it highlights …. 1) The idea that certain areas of the countryside may be portals for inter-dimensional phenomena. 2) These incidents might be accompanied by extreme electrical weather related observations. 3) These craft use power lines to recharge their propulsion systems.If you note: some of these extra-terrestrials are drawing on the human electricity supply when they drop into our World …. when thunder storm electricity in the upper atmosphere is not available. In relation to this observation … please listen to this disturbing, horrifying OCCULT experience a couple and their family endured in a farm house in the Brecon Beacons … over a 7 year period. www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001d6yr?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobileHere we have an account of a ‘spirit entity’ crossing over from another dimension and draining a couple’s electricity supply … sending their meter spinning at an alarming rate … costing them ££thousands the Welsh Electricity Board refused to refund them … when it was proven there was no illegal tapping of the supply going on … and theoretical calculations showed if every appliance in the house was switched on 24/7, 365 … this couldn’t account for the excessive consumption of an ‘entity from the spirit world’ - another dimension. Should we be paying for totally unwanted ‘spirit’ harassment of this nature?? … Shouldn’t the experts linked to Authority, have intervened years ago … and helped members of the vulnerable Public under attack like this?? The Church proved useless, time and again, in closing this Portal. …Aren’t professional sceptics ALSO indirectly responsible for this ‘suffering’ … for letting Authority/Religion get away with Cover-Up ?? [ Warning: This radio content is part drama/part documentary of a TRUE experience. This programme is NOT suitable for children and those of a nervous disposition living alone]
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 13, 2024 11:08:10 GMT
This open portal in the Brecon Beacons … has thrown up many weird disturbing events … that have driven the Families living there - to the edge of mental breakdown, suicide and possibly may even have triggered a murder back in the 1840’s … Problems with their livestock going mad were sudden and not adequately explained by one theory it was poison or even Chernobyl radiation that caused extreme issues … with local farmer’s too. For those visiting … called in to assist and report what was going on … it left them seriously questioning their Reality too.
We’ve noted the power drain on the farmhouse electrics just whenever the weirdness kicked off again. Similar to UFO portal activity. … it was interesting how helpless and useless the Authority figures were in this situation. Notably useless. - “You’re crazy/you’re responsible for all this” … being a typical reaction of most ignorant people not living in that situation.
What jumped out as pretty bizarre … was the plumber interviewed. He responded to a previous owner wanting a new CH system installed … she immediately had an issue with her radiators being ripped off the walls night after night. He would keep returning … putting them back on repeatedly …
When asked how he eventually fixed the issue … so the radiators stayed on the wall? … he sheepishly said …. “You’re not going to believe this … but all the disruption/problems with the radiators stopped immediately with the previous owner … when I secured them to the wall with screws with large ‘cross’ heads … that sounds crazy doesn’t it? … but it somehow stopped this thing (arguably demonic entity?) removing these appliances”
Strange such symbolism could protect this owner from this level of violent disruption from an entity coming through a portal.… but …. it didn’t stop rooms in the house suddenly growing freezing cold to the degree the new owners could see their breath exhale.🤔
Considering this couple’s energy bills in the 90’s … this logically shouldn’t have happened. This consumption would generate enough power to heat a whole street of houses back then … naturally, we are talking before stupid dumb Sanctions … when energy was much cheaper … and we had the common sense to exploit cheap free fossil fuel energy reserves on the UK’s doorstep. Kick out Tories and Labour … let’s make that happen … and expose Green Agenda duplicity. ………………………
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 13, 2024 13:47:54 GMT
Here we have an account of a ‘spirit entity’ crossing over from another dimension and draining a couple’s electricity supply … sending their meter spinning at an alarming rate … costing them ££thousands the Welsh Electricity Board refused to refund them … when it was proven there was no illegal tapping of the supply going on … and theoretical calculations showed if every appliance in the house was switched on 24/7, 365 … this couldn’t account for the excessive consumption of an ‘entity from the spirit world’ - another dimension. The Welsh (and UK) supply is regulated very precisely. Spinning at an alarming rate is just nonsense. But what do I know - the electricity here is hard wired.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 14, 2024 6:51:28 GMT
Here we have an account of a ‘spirit entity’ crossing over from another dimension and draining a couple’s electricity supply … sending their meter spinning at an alarming rate … costing them ££thousands the Welsh Electricity Board refused to refund them … when it was proven there was no illegal tapping of the supply going on … and theoretical calculations showed if every appliance in the house was switched on 24/7, 365 … this couldn’t account for the excessive consumption of an ‘entity from the spirit world’ - another dimension. The Welsh (and UK) supply is regulated very precisely. Spinning at an alarming rate is just nonsense. But what do I know - the electricity here is hard wired. Why are you calling this observation “nonsense”? Were you there? … Don’t you believe the multiple witness accounts?… Maybe you should think a bit more carefully … before posting … and drawing conclusions based on evidence you haven’t gathered? Not all electricity is ‘hard wired’ … You need to familiarise yourself with the work of Nikola Tesla and cases where UFO’s have often been seen tapping electrical energy from thunderstorms and electrical energy generated around volcanic/tectonic plate movements … where portals are often situated … along certain energy ley-lines picked up through dowsing. It’s no secret this observed phenomena is focused in these areas. Maybe it’s time scientists got off their lazy fat sceptical arses and started exploring these areas of interest more seriously? It’s the monetised Grid that is ‘hard wired’ … if UFO’s and ethereal entities coming through portals can get their leccy for FREE … exceptions should be made in this case where this couple were not responsible for the energy drainage going on here. Their Legal Representative should have been on to this POV … no proven culpability to defraud SWALEC, no evidence their appliances fitted could possibly account for the exceptional drainage going on here. It was a simple calculation SWALEC couldn’t possibly refute. As usual … their Lawyer was below par. Are we surprised in Britain today? … Our Legal System is in as bad a primitive backward state as our science.🙄 … increasingly bullied and run by dangerous Religious factions supporting foreign interests.
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 14, 2024 11:07:18 GMT
The Welsh (and UK) supply is regulated very precisely. Spinning at an alarming rate is just nonsense. But what do I know - the electricity here is hard wired. Why are you calling this observation “nonsense”? Were you there? … Don’t you believe the multiple witness accounts?… Maybe you should think a bit more carefully … before posting … and drawing conclusions based on evidence you haven’t gathered? Not all electricity is ‘hard wired’ … You need to familiarise yourself with the work of Nikola Tesla and cases where UFO’s have often been seen tapping electrical energy from thunderstorms and electrical energy generated around volcanic/tectonic plate movements … where portals are often situated … along certain energy ley-lines picked up through dowsing. Because it is nonsense. The Welsh electricity supply is hard wired and 50 Hz. You do know that don't you?
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Post by Orac on Jan 14, 2024 12:16:17 GMT
Here is an odd looking one
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 14, 2024 13:40:04 GMT
Here is an odd looking one He is right - clear as mud.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 15, 2024 7:53:52 GMT
There is a lot of fake footage being dropped right now to distract and discredit those attempting to force Disclosure from the Deep State/Religious Complex through a Congressional Hearing.
… When the MSM is promoting one story or another … and expressing an interest in modern UAP’s rather than historic UFO’s and Dr Steven Greer’s whistle-blowers … then you know this is a minor ‘distraction’ designed to waste precious NEWS air time on trivialities.
The MSM are still owned and controlled by the same people … so nothing will change when powerful people want to continue to hold on to that power and need to turn attention away from Congressional enquiries that might remove them from powerful positions and tax-payer funding.
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Post by sheepy on Jan 15, 2024 7:55:07 GMT
I just wanted to keep it interesting not the usual let's turn it into a conspiracy theory by the usual suspects.
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 15, 2024 12:45:23 GMT
There is a lot of fake footage being dropped right now to distract and discredit those attempting to force Disclosure from the Deep State/Religious Complex through a Congressional Hearing. Maybe you have some fake aliens. So far you haven't seen any in the flesh.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 16, 2024 6:00:12 GMT
I just wanted to keep it interesting not the usual let's turn it into a conspiracy theory by the usual suspects. So why didn’t you pick up on the discussion about electrical energy connected with two aspects of inter-dimensional phenomena? Why don’t you want to discuss clear evidence of the Kecksburg UFO … and it’s similarity to the German Die Glocke experimental craft … and their UFO PROGRAMME? Why didn’t you comment on the U.S. Marine’s testimony over the Far-East Asian close encounter? Turning dumb and mute when good evidence is presented … isn’t good enough. When you drop some evidence worth discussing, let me know … this Orac ‘jellyfish’ garbage is a world away from the technology the Black Ops people thought was worth reverse engineering. Just ‘Distraction Garbage’ … like Gaza. Chilean military footage is more reliable than American military tic-tac drops popping up the American news right now. Most look fake to me. Everything that passes through the hands of the CIA/Black Ops Disinformation Service needs to be treated with suspicion. This comes from another discussion … but is worth airing here in this thread: I wrote: “Dr Steven Greer was allegedly offered $$$2 billion dollars by General Stubblebine to stay silent and stop rolling out the Disclosure Project on UFO’s. NOTE: He was on the INSIDE.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine Stubblebine was a nutter who used to try to walk through walls, read the Men Who Stare At Goats.
He was into extremely wacky ideas in the 1970's and 80's and fell into the insane world of Alex Jones in the 2000's. My reply + additional comment: “We all know how much on the fringes of reality General Stubblebine was … and how much he was embroiled in Black Ops and the UFO programmes … it was inevitable he would eventually end up on some Alex Jones interview platform discussing his work. What is staggering is that he was in such an elevated position in U.S. Military Intelligence to be in a position to casually offer Dr Steven Greer $$2billion … to shut down his Disclosure Project and drop the whole thing. That either shows a man with incredible power and resources at his finger tips … or an errand boy for a greater power hidden much deeper in the U.S. Military Complex.[/font] Generals make good errand boys with clout ~ in the U.S. Military … yes, sireee! Lucky for Earth Humans … Dr Steven Greer had the strength of character and survival instincts to reject this offer, resist these bullies and their murderous goons … and put HUMANITY interests above personal gain. …. like so many Disclosure whistle-blowers have done in recent years … whilst the BBC and MSM was programmed by Religion … to turn a blind eye. Another reason to distrust the BBC’s news gathering credentials and integrity.” “It is not easy to leave the protective environment of the military Family … go out on a limb … put your own life at risk, and that of your whole family and associates … by going up against an Official Secrets Act that muzzles disclosure of essential important information that exposes a serious deception being engineered on Humanity over the SETI Programme … Secrecy over an alliance between Deep State and other civilisations in our Galaxy. Why open yourself up to MSM ridicule and the immense dangers from Disclosure … if it was not true?? Bright, intelligent, expert witnesses … with valuable careers … just don’t do Disclosure unless it is v. Important … and in Humanity’s interests. The most important responsibility a human has … is to serve the interests and survival of it’s own species … this comes above serving, Religion, State, Military, Deep State … and the Official Secrets Act. … all of which can be easily corrupted by a few small evil cartels … from it’s primary job ~ protecting us from harm. Personal and Collective harm. … these are fundamentals. Sacrifice our individual lives to protect the HIVE. People in this discussion should take this seriously. Not dismissing Disclosure with a wave of the hand … and silence.”
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Post by sheepy on Jan 16, 2024 7:19:11 GMT
I just wanted to keep it interesting not the usual let's turn it into a conspiracy theory by the usual suspects. So why didn’t you pick up on the discussion about electrical energy connected with two aspects of inter-dimensional phenomena? Why don’t you want to discuss clear evidence of the Kecksburg UFO … and it’s similarity to the German Die Glocke experimental craft … and their UFO PROGRAMME? Why didn’t you comment on the U.S. Marine’s testimony over the Far-East Asian close encounter? Turning dumb and mute when good evidence is presented … isn’t good enough. When you drop some evidence worth discussing, let me know … this Orac ‘jellyfish’ garbage is a world away from the technology the Black Ops people thought was worth reverse engineering. Just ‘Distraction Garbage’ … like Gaza. Chilean military footage is more reliable than American military tic-tac drops popping up the American news right now. Most look fake to me. Everything that passes through the hands of the CIA/Black Ops Disinformation Service needs to be treated with suspicion. This comes from another discussion … but is worth airing here in this thread: I wrote: “Dr Steven Greer was allegedly offered $$$2 billion dollars by General Stubblebine to stay silent and stop rolling out the Disclosure Project on UFO’s. NOTE: He was on the INSIDE.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine Stubblebine was a nutter who used to try to walk through walls, read the Men Who Stare At Goats.
He was into extremely wacky ideas in the 1970's and 80's and fell into the insane world of Alex Jones in the 2000's. My reply + additional comment: “We all know how much on the fringes of reality General Stubblebine was … and how much he was embroiled in Black Ops and the UFO programmes … it was inevitable he would eventually end up on some Alex Jones interview platform discussing his work. What is staggering is that he was in such an elevated position in U.S. Military Intelligence to be in a position to casually offer Dr Steven Greer $$2billion … to shut down his Disclosure Project and drop the whole thing. That either shows a man with incredible power and resources at his finger tips … or an errand boy for a greater power hidden much deeper in the U.S. Military Complex. [/font] Generals make good errand boys with clout ~ in the U.S. Military … yes, sireee! Lucky for Earth Humans … Dr Steven Greer had the strength of character and survival instincts to reject this offer, resist these bullies and their murderous goons … and put HUMANITY interests above personal gain. …. like so many Disclosure whistle-blowers have done in recent years … whilst the BBC and MSM was programmed by Religion … to turn a blind eye. Another reason to distrust the BBC’s news gathering credentials and integrity.” “It is not easy to leave the protective environment of the military Family … go out on a limb … put your own life at risk, and that of your whole family and associates … by going up against an Official Secrets Act that muzzles disclosure of essential important information that exposes a serious deception being engineered on Humanity over the SETI Programme … Secrecy over an alliance between Deep State and other civilisations in our Galaxy. Why open yourself up to MSM ridicule and the immense dangers from Disclosure … if it was not true?? Bright, intelligent, expert witnesses … with valuable careers … just don’t do Disclosure unless it is v. Important … and in Humanity’s interests. The most important responsibility a human has … is to serve the interests and survival of it’s own species … this comes above serving, Religion, State, Military, Deep State … and the Official Secrets Act. … all of which can be easily corrupted by a few small evil cartels … from it’s primary job ~ protecting us from harm. Personal and Collective harm. … these are fundamentals. Sacrifice our individual lives to protect the HIVE. People in this discussion should take this seriously. Not dismissing Disclosure with a wave of the hand … and silence.” [/quote] Because fairly obviously you have lots of parts of a puzzle you are trying to make fit, your grid assumption isn't a very fitting piece, when UFO's have been spotted for centuries long before a power grid even existed. So why didn't you ask yourself why would they need it all?
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jan 16, 2024 10:27:53 GMT
Because fairly obviously you have lots of parts of a puzzle you are trying to make fit, your grid assumption isn't a very fitting piece, when UFO's have been spotted for centuries long before a power grid even existed. So why didn't you ask yourself why would they need it all? In the cases where UFO’s appear luminescent and inter-dimensional in nature … it’s interesting to see them piggy-backing our energy facilities giving clues how they might be powered and levitate effortlessly. Our supplies are an easy localised convenience. As I mentioned, from the work of Nikolai Tesla, humans didn’t invent electricity … lightening storms are observed on other planets/moons with a gaseous element and weather system dynamics … volcanoes and tectonic shifts also create piezo-electric effects that discharge as energy. Pressure on many types of mineral lattices push spare electrons to be discharged … sometimes creating ball lightening phenomena …sometimes mistaken for UFO’s … often used by sceptics/the Cover-Up Brigade to explain UFO’s …a distraction that has worked for centuries. In the case of the haunted Welsh farmhouse … this electricity drain observation was unusual … specific to this case … It wasn’t just a traditional haunting shown by a trapped spirit - footsteps, cold patches, ghost apparitions … this appeared to have a periodically opening portal where something powerfully demonic was coming through, maybe able to use electrical power to rip radiators off walls, heave up the floor of the toilet, create possession and madness in humans and animals. Imagine the power needed to break chemical bonds and turn solid matter into pliable fluid effects that stagger the imagination? … Our science cannot fathom that … but maybe inter-dimensional entities can create “Stargates” using energy in this form? … Maybe if SWALEC adjusted this Brecon electricity supply to worked purely on human appliance demand … isolate it from demonic elements tapping into it … maybe it might stop this couple paying for the extreme energy manifestations seriously disturbing their peace of mind? Cutting off supply will never stop visitation … because these advanced entities were never dependent on human supply to get here. We are more likely able to reduce this increased UFO activity and intervention since WW2… by abolishing nuclear weapons, stopping petty wars and conflict, looking after their long term Eden Project, cleaning up our environments, implementing birth control … and restoring true Democratic representation and Free Speech to all … Implementing Transparency and FULL Disclosure … and setting up protections for animals and human rights … Freedom/protections from being abducted, experimented on and murdered. These aren’t impossible goals … it just needs good administration and different types of people in control.
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Post by besoeker3 on Jan 16, 2024 10:46:49 GMT
I can see visiting aliens viewing the Earth as a resource. Even if it’s not at first . You can guarantee that dinosaur mutilations happened thousands of years before recent cattle mutilations. 🤔 … when you are travelling thru the cold barren wastelands of space in huge motherships … truck stop Earth 53.0 is a welcome relief for getting fresh water onboard and a nice juicy fresh natural steak … far better cooked French Michelin chef-style … than engineered by an AI droid in Zod’s lab on deck 37.🙄 My guess is there are thousands of engineered Earth’s all over the Universe … just for this purpose.I'll ask yet again - have you seen any aliens in real life? Show them in real life?
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