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Post by Orac on Dec 19, 2023 12:20:44 GMT
My own opinion for what it's worth is that apparently anyone from anywhere can up sticks and dump themselves on another country expecting to be housed clothed and fed and generally looked after, regardless of the impact on the native population of that country who are powerless to prevent the intrusion and subsequent effect on their lives. Something stinks. Indeed. No government signed such an agreement and no population anywhere would find such terms acceptable. The situation has little to do with the law as such.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 19, 2023 12:21:13 GMT
I’m not saying you did. I merely feel the inaccuracy of the BBC needs to be stressed. What has the BBC said? They have for many months put a page up stating categorically they make no distinction between those two very different categories of rubber boat occupant. Making that distinction would, of course remove the point if the rubber boats in an instant. Any person genuinely in the first category has only to say so to whatever authorities run whatever EU country they gave reached and they can make a claim on that treaty. Removing any expectation of being able to call on that treaty obligation if you arrive by rubber boat is fundamental to killing the trade in boat carried flesh.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 19, 2023 12:25:57 GMT
They have for many months put a page up stating categorically they make no distinction between those two very different categories of rubber boat occupant. Making that distinction would, of course remove the point if the rubber boats in an instant. Any person genuinely in the first category has only to say so to whatever authorities run whatever EU country they gave reached and they can make a claim on that treaty. Removing any expectation of being able to call on that treaty obligation if you arrive by rubber boat is fundamental to killing the trade in boat carried flesh. Yes, I imagine that removing the obligation to grant an amnesty to refugees entering the country illegally would 'kill' the boat trade. The only way to do that is to leave the Refugee Convention. I don't quite understand what the BBC has done from your first line.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 19, 2023 12:28:31 GMT
They have for many months put a page up stating categorically they make no distinction between those two very different categories of rubber boat occupant. Making that distinction would, of course remove the point if the rubber boats in an instant. Any person genuinely in the first category has only to say so to whatever authorities run whatever EU country they gave reached and they can make a claim on that treaty. Removing any expectation of being able to call on that treaty obligation if you arrive by rubber boat is fundamental to killing the trade in boat carried flesh. Yes, I imagine that removing the obligation to grant an amnesty to refugees entering the country illegally would 'kill' the boat trade. The only way to do that is to leave the Refugee Convention. I don't quite understand what the BBC has done from your first line. I’ll find the quote and post it…
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