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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Dec 10, 2023 17:26:25 GMT
If obesity was at the same level as it was when I was a teenager (less than 2%) then there would be an extra £10,000/year available for schools to provide physical education and "lifestyle advice" for every child in school.
Obese people are "devouring our children's future".
A new nurse at the unit where I get my treatment commented on how fit I am for my age ... and that I have "the blood pressure of a young person". She has high blood pressure (160 over something) ... and so does her husband. After interesting her in the herbal "medicine" I take to manage my blood pressure I said: "You're a bit overweight". She laughed ... and adopted the demeanour of someone who had no intention of doing anything about it.
When I was young GPs often "told off" patients when they put on weight ... because by doing so it created "more work for them".
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 11, 2023 11:03:08 GMT
They should stop discouraging smoking
That used to raise more thsn enough tax to pay for that bill
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Post by borchester on Dec 11, 2023 11:14:03 GMT
They should stop discouraging smoking That used to raise more thsn enough tax to pay for that bill Quite right.
Dr Sutcliffe would turn up, light up a Senior Service and close all the windows to stop any fresh air getting in. He knew better than to suggest dieting to any of his patients, who believed in feeding a cold and adding extra for a fever.
Of course, we had real doctors in those days
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Post by BvL on Dec 11, 2023 16:22:42 GMT
They should stop discouraging smoking That used to raise more thsn enough tax to pay for that bill China has a health problem with smoking. There are no smoking signs in public buildings which no one bothers with, and like when my friend was at the airport he asked the staff to speak to the manager who came out smoking a fag right next to a no smoking sign. This has worked out so far, but now with green energy they have these hydrogen refuelling stations. As one of them said, we gotta have signs up saying "really really no smoking". |
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 11, 2023 16:25:27 GMT
They should stop discouraging smoking That used to raise more thsn enough tax to pay for that bill China has a health problem with smoking. There are no smoking signs in public buildings which no one bothers with, and like when my friend was at the airport he asked the staff to speak to the manager who came out smoking a fag right next to a no smoking sign. This has worked out so far, but now with green energy they have these hydrogen refuelling stations. As one of them said, we gotta have signs up saying "really really no smoking". unsurprisingly, i don’t much care overly if their lack of a no smoking policy near hydrogen fuelling causes an inferno to rival a hundred hindenbergs… |
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Post by Orac on Dec 11, 2023 17:23:51 GMT
Interesting. The Chinese attitude to smoking is like a breath of fresh air
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Post by Bentley on Dec 11, 2023 17:29:43 GMT
I met a Chinese medicine doctor 30 years ago in Harlow Essex.
He told me ( through an interpreter) that drinking copious amounts of oolong tea counters the effects of smoking tobacco .
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Post by sandypine on Dec 11, 2023 18:02:43 GMT
If obesity was at the same level as it was when I was a teenager (less than 2%) then there would be an extra £10,000/year available for schools to provide physical education and "lifestyle advice" for every child in school. Obese people are "devouring our children's future". A new nurse at the unit where I get my treatment commented on how fit I am for my age ... and that I have "the blood pressure of a young person". She has high blood pressure (160 over something) ... and so does her husband. After interesting her in the herbal "medicine" I take to manage my blood pressure I said: "You're a bit overweight". She laughed ... and adopted the demeanour of someone who had no intention of doing anything about it. When I was young GPs often "told off" patients when they put on weight ... because by doing so it created "more work for them". 10% of the NHS cost goes into treating diabetes and its complications. Less than 10% of that is Type 1 diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is linked to obesity however it is also inextricably linked to ethnicity. With approx 1 million coming in in the last year almost wholly of ethnic minorities then if they were solely North European then there would be expected to be approx 80.000 type 2 diabetes sufferers, but they are largely from more susceptible groups and we can expect from this cohort alone some some 320,000 Type 2 sufferers which would push extra cost on the NHS budget about 1% of its budget purely in this number and the make up of this group alone with Type 2 diabetes alone. Most suffer the increased risk also at a younger age. All those hidden costs just to acheive cheap labour for some but for which we all pay for. Our children's future depends on many things and obesity is pretty low on that scale of dangers. |
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Post by BvL on Dec 11, 2023 21:00:19 GMT
I met a Chinese medicine doctor 30 years ago in Harlow Essex. He told me ( through an interpreter) that drinking copious amounts of oolong tea counters the effects of smoking tobacco . Weird isn't it? I have been watching many of these walkabout videos in different towns and cities across the world. The only fat people seem to be the Americans and the British. Out of all of them I believe Moscow gets to be the winner on slim fit people. Indeed I think it is more than just fatness in Britain. It is the whole deformed shape of the body compared to what it should be, possibly indicating a duff diet in developing years as well. You do get a few fat older women in Mediterranean countries, but in Britain you get massively fat teenagers, especially place like Blackpool and up that way. West London seems to be on the healthier side of UK fatness, but I think a lot of people around there are foreign. People who smoke are often less fat because it is an appetite suppressant. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 11, 2023 21:15:06 GMT
I met a Chinese medicine doctor 30 years ago in Harlow Essex. He told me ( through an interpreter) that drinking copious amounts of oolong tea counters the effects of smoking tobacco . Weird isn't it? I have been watching many of these walkabout videos in different towns and cities across the world. The only fat people seem to be the Americans and the British. Out of all of them I believe Moscow gets to be the winner on slim fit people. Indeed I think it is more than just fatness in Britain. It is the whole deformed shape of the body compared to what it should be, possibly indicating a duff diet in developing years as well. You do get a few fat older women in Mediterranean countries, but in Britain you get massively fat teenagers, especially place like Blackpool and up that way. West London seems to be on the healthier side of UK fatness, but I think a lot of people around there are foreign. People who smoke are often less fat because it is an appetite suppressant. Yup. You don’t get fat by eating wisely and one thing that you can’t accuse the Brits of is eating wisely . |
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Post by Orac on Dec 11, 2023 22:07:45 GMT
If you watch recorded episodes of Multicoloured Swap Shop made in seventies, you can see that something is not quite the same. People are typically a normal weight.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Dec 11, 2023 22:58:47 GMT
Back in the 60s, when I lived in the country 10 miles from where I worked, the buses went on strike. As it was Winter and I didn't feel safe cycling in the dark I, for three weeks, ran to and from work. Most of the route was along a main road that had a path. The time it took me was little more than I could safely achieve on my bike.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Dec 12, 2023 1:02:03 GMT
Proverbs 23,2
"Put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony".
The context of this is how one should respond at a banquet provided by a ruler. However, maybe it would have the desired effect if one thinks about the consequences of consuming a large plate of food if one needs to lose weight?
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Post by BvL on Dec 12, 2023 1:02:22 GMT
If you watch recorded episodes of Multicoloured Swap Shop made in seventies, you can see that something is not quite the same. People are typically a normal weight. Actually I noticed that when watching the women dance on the 70s Top of the Pops in the audience. The majority of the girls there had the classic feminine hourglass figure, except they did not come across as the type who were fitness fanatics or even those who employ surgeons. They were your run-of-the-mill West London middle class teenager types and they could certainly dance too. Indeed it is one of my hobbies having an interest in dance and so I am quite perceptive regarding it. The teenagers a today just have not got the same touch. Their bodies even when not over-weight as they say these days were rather close to a male body. Gone were the long slender feminine shaped legs and so on and they come across as clumsy in their walk. All in all they just don't have what a man would regard as attractive in women. I did spot what I would say was the perfect specimen of a feminine body on the tube the other day. I could not help looking at her, but as soon as she spoke I clocked she too was foreign and was probably something funny like Norwegian. Poor British lads eh? They are going to have to become multilingual! |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Dec 12, 2023 1:57:07 GMT
It is being forecast that adult obesity in the UK will increase from the present 15 million to 26 million by 2030 .. and that the country will not be able to provide for the treatment and care of people with obesity driven health conditions.
For a short time in the early 1990s GPs were encouraged to threaten to refuse to continue treating patients who made no effort to lose weight. There was a fuss when a doctor responded to a Jewish patient's excuses by saying: "They were able to lose weight in Auschwitz". Obesity in the UK has more than doubled since then.
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