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Post by buccaneer on Dec 7, 2023 21:13:34 GMT
I know that an unelected Farage on the Cabinet would violate your rigid code of honour. I believe in you, Red. You really have a thing about Farage don't you... Mention Farage and Wormy gets triggered. #It'sBrexitwotdunit
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 7, 2023 21:22:42 GMT
Only elected politicians in government thanks, no exceptions at all. Abolish the Lords. I'm not so sure about abolishing the Lords. Yes they're unelected, but in most cases they have a lot of political experience and as a revising chamber they also hold the government to account. I'm not suggesting it's perfect but it has served us fairly well since 1801. Until someone comes up with a better system it's what we're stuck with however there is one reform I would approve of. The Lords currently have 784 sitting members which is more than the commons. This number should obviously be cut, perhaps by 50%. Perhaps the way to achieve that is to severely cull the political appointees who are installed as life peers by the government of the day to placate noisy minorities. Baroness Lawence of Clarendon, OBE would be a good place to start closely followed by serial expenses swindler Baroness Uddin of Bethnal Green, both of whom were elevated to the peerage by Sir Tony Blair.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 7, 2023 21:27:58 GMT
You really have a thing about Farage don't you... Mention Farage and Wormy gets triggered. #It'sBrexitwotdunit Indeed lol, the mere mention of the word 'Farage' has a remarkable effect on some lefties...
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 7, 2023 21:31:17 GMT
I'm not so sure about abolishing the Lords. Yes they're unelected, but in most cases they have a lot of political experience and as a revising chamber they also hold the government to account. I'm not suggesting it's perfect but it has served us fairly well since 1801. Until someone comes up with a better system it's what we're stuck with however there is one reform I would approve of. The Lords currently have 784 sitting members which is more than the commons. This number should obviously be cut, perhaps by 50%. Perhaps the way to achieve that is to severely cull the political appointees who are installed as life peers by the government of the day to placate noisy minorities. Baroness Lawence of Clarendon, OBE would be a good place to start closely followed by serial expenses swindler Baroness Uddin of Bethnal Green, both of whom were elevated to the peerage by Sir Tony Blair. I couldn't agree more, the examples you give are not a good look for the HoL.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 7, 2023 21:52:33 GMT
Only elected politicians in government thanks, no exceptions at all. Abolish the Lords. I'm not so sure about abolishing the Lords. Yes they're unelected, but in most cases they have a lot of political experience and as a revising chamber they also hold the government to account. I'm not suggesting it's perfect but it has served us fairly well since 1801. Until someone comes up with a better system it's what we're stuck with however there is one reform I would approve of. The Lords currently have 784 sitting members which is more than the commons. This number should obviously be cut, perhaps by 50%. There are a hell of a lot of Europhiles in the Lords, in the previous decade they did all they could to try and prevent a referendum and then tried to prevent it being honoured. Abolish the Lords. Establish a new non partisan house for scrutiny in which cross benchers are elected on the basis of their CV. Have them stand on the basis of who they are and what they can do, not because some party appointed them.
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 7, 2023 22:17:16 GMT
I'm not so sure about abolishing the Lords. Yes they're unelected, but in most cases they have a lot of political experience and as a revising chamber they also hold the government to account. I'm not suggesting it's perfect but it has served us fairly well since 1801. Until someone comes up with a better system it's what we're stuck with however there is one reform I would approve of. The Lords currently have 784 sitting members which is more than the commons. This number should obviously be cut, perhaps by 50%. There are a hell of a lot of Europhiles in the Lords, in the previous decade they did all they could to try and prevent a referendum and then tried to prevent it being honoured. Abolish the Lords. Establish a new non partisan house for scrutiny in which cross benchers are elected on the basis of their CV. Have them stand on the basis of who they are and what they can do, not because some party appointed them. I have sympathy with what you say, yes the Lord are very pro EU. Perhaps reform is better than abolishment, although history would suggest neither is likely.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 8, 2023 0:16:07 GMT
I would hold a referendum. After all, the last referendum went well.
And, if current members of the Lord's want to become members of the replacement, they can stand for election and pay for their own candidacy.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 9, 2023 22:44:07 GMT
‘He would take no prisoners!’ Tory MP calls for ‘no nonsense’ Nigel Farage to be made Home Secretary. Nigel Farage would make a good Home Secretary due to his “no nonsense” demeanour, Tory MP Jonathan Gullis has claimed. Speaking on GB News, Gullis said he would have “no problem” with the GB News star being made a Lord and Home Secretary. It comes as the Tory Government grapples with a crippling migrant crisis which threatens to be the death knell in their clutch on power. Gullis believes Farage would be able to get a grip on the migrant crisis which continues to cause trouble for Rishi Sunak. www.gbnews.com/politics/tory-mp-nigel-farage-home-secretary-james-cleverlyPersonally, I think Sunak would be open to the idea however, I don't think Farage would be interested. Could be wrong, but I think Farage may see joining the Tories as jumping onto a sinking ship Not sure about Home Secretary but he seems to be doing rather well in becoming king of the jungle.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 9, 2023 22:46:38 GMT
Wouldn’t he need to be a MP first? Seriously for all his strengths, anyone who describes Farage as a team player simply hasn’t been paying attention. To be leader of the PARLIAMENTARY party, yes he would. Frankly i think such a post would be beneath him.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 9, 2023 22:52:46 GMT
‘He would take no prisoners!’ Tory MP calls for ‘no nonsense’ Nigel Farage to be made Home Secretary. Nigel Farage would make a good Home Secretary due to his “no nonsense” demeanour, Tory MP Jonathan Gullis has claimed. Speaking on GB News, Gullis said he would have “no problem” with the GB News star being made a Lord and Home Secretary. It comes as the Tory Government grapples with a crippling migrant crisis which threatens to be the death knell in their clutch on power. Gullis believes Farage would be able to get a grip on the migrant crisis which continues to cause trouble for Rishi Sunak. www.gbnews.com/politics/tory-mp-nigel-farage-home-secretary-james-cleverlyPersonally, I think Sunak would be open to the idea however, I don't think Farage would be interested. Could be wrong, but I think Farage may see joining the Tories as jumping onto a sinking ship. So, you've no problem with an unelected Home Secretary, then? Where does that leave your constant criticism of the 'unelected' commission? Wouldn't it be the very definition of irony if the man who campaigned against the undemocratic EU became an unelected cabinet minister? Did that obvious fact fly over everyone's head on GB 'News'? i think you confuse the terms (un)elected and (un)accountable. In short, i see no problem with an unelected cabinet minister and Sunak has shown how they are created with a snap of the fingers only a fortnight ago. ACCOUNTABILITY comes from the people’s vote for MP’s to sit on green leather, and from one night to another five years apart we have fuck all say in who sits on the front bench and what seat they sit in anyway The issue i see would be tbe same as Trump net. A solid wall of opposition to his every move in Starmer’s motley rabble, tbe other place and the lawyers who should face tbe fate the bard suggested.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 22:55:58 GMT
So, you've no problem with an unelected Home Secretary, then? Where does that leave your constant criticism of the 'unelected' commission? Wouldn't it be the very definition of irony if the man who campaigned against the undemocratic EU became an unelected cabinet minister? Did that obvious fact fly over everyone's head on GB 'News'? i think you confuse the terms (un)elected and (un)accountable. In short, i see no problem with an unelected cabinet minister and Sunak has shown how they are created with a snap of the fingers only a fortnight ago. The issue i see would be tbe same as Trump net. A solid wall of opposition to his every move in Starmer’s motley rabble, tbe other place and the lawyers who should face tbe fate the bard suggested. LOL! Four legs good, two legs better!
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 10, 2023 9:16:22 GMT
‘He would take no prisoners!’ Tory MP calls for ‘no nonsense’ Nigel Farage to be made Home Secretary. Nigel Farage would make a good Home Secretary due to his “no nonsense” demeanour, Tory MP Jonathan Gullis has claimed. Speaking on GB News, Gullis said he would have “no problem” with the GB News star being made a Lord and Home Secretary. It comes as the Tory Government grapples with a crippling migrant crisis which threatens to be the death knell in their clutch on power. Gullis believes Farage would be able to get a grip on the migrant crisis which continues to cause trouble for Rishi Sunak. www.gbnews.com/politics/tory-mp-nigel-farage-home-secretary-james-cleverlyPersonally, I think Sunak would be open to the idea however, I don't think Farage would be interested. Could be wrong, but I think Farage may see joining the Tories as jumping onto a sinking ship Not sure about Home Secretary but he seems to be doing rather well in becoming king of the jungle. Yes so I believe, I havent watched the programme but I have seen clips on GB News. The lefties on the forum will I'm sure be thrilled if he wins.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 10, 2023 9:45:51 GMT
I have not watched it at all
I have, however, got three working SIM cards and an android emulation suite registered in the name of a fictional french Canadian and this gives me fifteen free votes which i have naturally used at every opportunity as have both daughters etc.
I’m sure this is how the left kept the like of two left footed ed balls in Strictly at the expense of others who could actually dance. I admit i USED to watch THAT when it first came out because it reminded me a lot of how Dad went in for such dancing big time after he retired (not competition, but he and mum did get rather good at it) but as soon as it became mandatory for a competitor to have an arm mussing or prefer dancing as a same sex couple that was it for me.
I don’t watch the show and i haven’t bothered with the video clips in the app, but one thing really does surprise me, Every time one of these no-hopers i’ve never heard of gets kicked off the producers put together a blog page ‘the latest arse kicked off’s jungle journey’
I’ve clicked on them because that’s the only way i can find out who the hell they are (ok not true for Frankie Dettori i know who he is but i thought he’d died a while back TBH) but when i have clicked on the bio blogs it shows how many views those pages have had and the most i saw was about 830.
If i was Tombola’s advertising director i’d be wondering a lot about value for money
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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 10, 2023 10:52:44 GMT
I confess I may have been tempted to watch if I knew who the so called 'celebrities' were. Right at the beginning I had a look at the people who were taking part and other than Farage and Dettori I'd never heard of any of them, they were complete unknowns. If this was the best line up ITV could come up with, and clearly it was, then tbh I think the show's days are numbered.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 10, 2023 20:09:08 GMT
I'm not so sure about abolishing the Lords. Yes they're unelected, but in most cases they have a lot of political experience and as a revising chamber they also hold the government to account. I'm not suggesting it's perfect but it has served us fairly well since 1801. Until someone comes up with a better system it's what we're stuck with however there is one reform I would approve of. The Lords currently have 784 sitting members which is more than the commons. This number should obviously be cut, perhaps by 50%. Perhaps the way to achieve that is to severely cull the political appointees who are installed as life peers by the government of the day to placate noisy minorities. Baroness Lawence of Clarendon, OBE would be a good place to start closely followed by serial expenses swindler Baroness Uddin of Bethnal Green, both of whom were elevated to the peerage by Sir Tony Blair. i can think of another en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Jones,_Baroness_Jones_of_Whitchurch Maggie Jones was parachuted in to the constituency of Blaenau Gwent by Labour HQ when Blair demanded safe seats be forced to accept women only short lists. The seat of that name was perhaps better known to the world at large by another name. When it was known as ‘Ebbw Vale’ its viters sent Aneurin Bevan to create the NHS and forty years later sent Michael Foot to preside over the party’s descent into marxist led chaos and then obscurity. It has been the safest labour seat in Wales. Llew Smith was returned in the previous two elections with 79% and 72% respectively of the roughly 59% turnout. If you were not a labour voter you gave up any hope of a voice. Blair’s demand that tits and a vagina were a requirement for election in the party’s safest seats (except his own) caused uproar snd the loss of the seat to the man ousted from it. While more people turned out, the man Blair wanted given a P45 was elected as an independent. Maggie Jones received thirty something percent. Blair had to make her a life peer to buy her silence. She has collected this reward for nearly two decades
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