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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 7, 2022 14:43:17 GMT
It was interesting to watch Neville being attacked by Hislop - a slimey little Leftie dwarf. When asked why he was taking money from a country with a human rights record like Qatar he just didn't know how to answer.
But surely it's easy to scupper Hislop's attack. Qatar is a muslim country and as such it follows Sharia law - the holy law of Islam. Under Sharia law homosexuality is illegal and punishable by death, and women are inferior beings as are the Kuffar. So Qatar follows Sharia law as they are perfectly entitled to do. It's their country.
A more pertinent question for Hislop to answer would be why have we allowed Islam to take such a hold in the UK. If we think this religion's beliefs are so toxic why have we allowed the muslims to build vast numbers of mosques all over the country (most of which don't allow women in). And the answer is that Lefties like Hislop would never say a word against Islam or the muslims. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
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Post by Orac on Nov 7, 2022 18:58:19 GMT
Indeed - that is more or less what i took from it.
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Post by patman post on Nov 7, 2022 19:32:36 GMT
But football hasn’t promoted Islam and other repressive cults in the UK — though I guess it acted as a catalyst for KBW, FN and BNP gangs roaming round the place from the ‘70s on.
PS — I class Hislop and most of Private Eye as rogue Right of Centre, with occasional infections of socialism…
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Post by Orac on Nov 7, 2022 21:17:54 GMT
But football hasn’t promoted Islam and other repressive cults in the UK — though I guess it acted as a catalyst for KBW, FN and BNP gangs roaming round the place from the ‘70s on. PS — I class Hislop and most of Private Eye as rogue Right of Centre, with occasional infections of socialism… I think the accusation was not that football had encouraged the encroachment of Islam into the UK, but rather buttery chaterati twerps like Ian Hislop |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 8, 2022 7:20:21 GMT
Yes. The accusation is that the likes of Hislop think that an Islamic country like Qatar should be sanctioned for following Sharia Law (Islamic law) yet have never voiced any criticism whatsoever of our policy of allowing immigration of those who follow Islam. And 43% of British muslims support the introduction of Sharia Law in the UK. It's the Islamic beliefs that should be challenged - not sovereign countries like Qatar.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 8, 2022 10:22:44 GMT
It was interesting to watch Neville being attacked by Hislop - a slimey little Leftie dwarf. When asked why he was taking money from a country with a human rights record like Qatar he just didn't know how to answer. But surely it's easy to scupper Hislop's attack. Qatar is a muslim country and as such it follows Sharia law - the holy law of Islam. Under Sharia law homosexuality is illegal and punishable by death, and women are inferior beings as are the Kuffar. So Qatar follows Sharia law as they are perfectly entitled to do. It's their country. A more pertinent question for Hislop to answer would be why have we allowed Islam to take such a hold in the UK. If we think this religion's beliefs are so toxic why have we allowed the muslims to build vast numbers of mosques all over the country (most of which don't allow women in). And the answer is that Lefties like Hislop would never say a word against Islam or the muslims. Hypocrisy of the highest order. Hislop's objections revolved around human rights atrocities and the hypocrisy of pro-lgbt performers such as Robbie Williams taking huge amounts of money to perform at the World Cup. Over 6,000 immigrant workers have died building the stadiums and the corrupt FIFA should never have awarded the Championship to a non-footballing nation such as Qatar in the first place. |
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Post by patman post on Nov 8, 2022 13:39:06 GMT
But football hasn’t promoted Islam and other repressive cults in the UK — though I guess it acted as a catalyst for KBW, FN and BNP gangs roaming round the place from the ‘70s on. PS — I class Hislop and most of Private Eye as rogue Right of Centre, with occasional infections of socialism… I think the accusation was not that football had encouraged the encroachment of Islam into the UK, but rather buttery chaterati twerps like Ian Hislop I was answering the specific par in the opening post that said:
A more pertinent question for Hislop to answer would be why have we allowed Islam to take such a hold in the UK. If we think this religion's beliefs are so toxic why have we allowed the muslims to build vast numbers of mosques all over the country (most of which don't allow women in). And the answer is that Lefties like Hislop would never say a word against Islam or the muslims. Hypocrisy of the highest order.
Hope that makes things clearer...
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Post by Orac on Nov 8, 2022 13:49:03 GMT
Patman, he doesn't mention football. I therefore have no idea what your point is re football not acting as a catalyst for Islam spreading into the UK
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Post by patman post on Nov 8, 2022 14:01:36 GMT
Patman, he doesn't mention football. I therefore have no idea what your point is re football not acting as a catalyst for Islam spreading into the UK So what has prompted the current increased interest in Qatar's human rights' record...? |
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Post by Orac on Nov 8, 2022 15:51:20 GMT
So what has prompted the current increased interest in Qatar's human rights' record...? I'm not sure what is going wrong with this conversation - earlier, you wrote this - "But football hasn’t promoted Islam and other repressive cults in the UK"My point in reply was that nobody had remotely suggested it had. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 8, 2022 17:00:56 GMT
Patman, he doesn't mention football. I therefore have no idea what your point is re football not acting as a catalyst for Islam spreading into the UK So what has prompted the current increased interest in Qatar's human rights' record...? I would have thought the noted hypocrisy of those extolling the virtues of equality, fairness and anti discrimination and then taking the money. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 9, 2022 7:57:11 GMT
So what has prompted the current increased interest in Qatar's human rights' record...? I would have thought the noted hypocrisy of those extolling the virtues of equality, fairness and anti discrimination and then taking the money. But surely there's nothing wrong with someone going to Qatar and taking their money. Qatar's "human" rights issues are simply par for the course for any Islamic country. If Qatar want to do this in their own country I don't see the problem. Just as I don't see a problem with China effectively wanting to eliminate Islam in their own country. It's their right to do that if they want. What I find hypocritical is Hislop attacking Neville for taking money from Qatar but supporting the freedom to practise Islam in the UK. Hislop would never say a word against Islam. Yet Qatar is just following the Islamic law - and it's the Islamic law that creates the human rights abuses.. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 9, 2022 8:55:16 GMT
I would have thought the noted hypocrisy of those extolling the virtues of equality, fairness and anti discrimination and then taking the money. But surely there's nothing wrong with someone going to Qatar and taking their money. Qatar's "human" rights issues are simply par for the course for any Islamic country. If Qatar want to do this in their own country I don't see the problem. It's their right to do that if they want. What I find hypocritical is Hislop attacking Neville for taking money from Qatar but supporting the freedom to practise Islam in the UK. Hislop would never say a word against Islam. Yet Qatar is just following the Islamic law - and it's the Islamic law that creates the human rights abuses.. ''Just as I don't see a problem with China effectively wanting to eliminate Islam in their own country.'' Well, I never expected to see anyone openly support genocide on this site. |
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Post by Toreador on Nov 9, 2022 10:50:45 GMT
But surely there's nothing wrong with someone going to Qatar and taking their money. Qatar's "human" rights issues are simply par for the course for any Islamic country. If Qatar want to do this in their own country I don't see the problem. It's their right to do that if they want. What I find hypocritical is Hislop attacking Neville for taking money from Qatar but supporting the freedom to practise Islam in the UK. Hislop would never say a word against Islam. Yet Qatar is just following the Islamic law - and it's the Islamic law that creates the human rights abuses.. ''Just as I don't see a problem with China effectively wanting to eliminate Islam in their own country.'' Well, I never expected to see anyone openly support genocide on this site. You don't need to practice genocide to eliminate people from a particular place. |
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Post by patman post on Nov 9, 2022 13:59:07 GMT
It was interesting to watch Neville being attacked by Hislop - a slimey little Leftie dwarf. When asked why he was taking money from a country with a human rights record like Qatar he just didn't know how to answer. But surely it's easy to scupper Hislop's attack. Qatar is a muslim country and as such it follows Sharia law - the holy law of Islam. Under Sharia law homosexuality is illegal and punishable by death, and women are inferior beings as are the Kuffar. So Qatar follows Sharia law as they are perfectly entitled to do. It's their country. A more pertinent question for Hislop to answer would be why have we allowed Islam to take such a hold in the UK. If we think this religion's beliefs are so toxic why have we allowed the muslims to build vast numbers of mosques all over the country (most of which don't allow women in). And the answer is that Lefties like Hislop would never say a word against Islam or the muslims. Hypocrisy of the highest order. It’s a question, but why for Hislop? If “we” allowed Islam to take such a hold in the UK, why would Hislop know? And who’s this “we”? Is it you? It isn’t me. I suggest it’s up to those on HIGNFY to decide what to ask, say and respond. It’s up to anybody to watch, complain, switch off as the mood takes them. But I suggest your blanket accusations against “we”, a religion you probably know no more about than me, and Hislop for not condemning events in this country when the topic raised was about earning money from commentating on football taking place in Qatar, illustrates the readiness (or vulnerability) of the ill-informed to be radicalised by the mob… |
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