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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 24, 2023 15:11:43 GMT
Keir Starmer lets slip that EU anthem 'sums up the Labour partySir Keir Starmer has let slip that he believes the EU anthem, Ode to Joy, is the song which "sums up the Labour Party". He said the song has "a sense of destiny", adding that it has a "sense of moving forward to a better place". Earlier this year, Starmer confirmed he is planning to renegotiate the UK's relationship with the EU if he is elected. www.gbnews.com/politics/keir-starmer-eu-anthem-labour-party-ode-to-joyI know what you're thinking, 'Is this news? Everyone knows Starmer is pro EU'. Well yes, you're right. But I thought I'd mention it anyway.
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Post by dappy on Nov 24, 2023 15:21:29 GMT
Christ, even by GB News standards, that is pretty desperate. Blimey.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 24, 2023 15:35:39 GMT
Christ, even by GB News standards, that is pretty desperate. Blimey. Ha, what's the word I'm searching for? Oh yes, there it is, 'Predictable'. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 25, 2023 4:47:51 GMT
Starmer chooses the EUSSR anthem - Beethoven's 9th Symphony - as the classical music that 'sums up' Labour praising its 'sense of destiny'
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Post by zanygame on Nov 25, 2023 16:54:14 GMT
Keir Starmer lets slip that EU anthem 'sums up the Labour partySir Keir Starmer has let slip that he believes the EU anthem, Ode to Joy, is the song which "sums up the Labour Party". He said the song has "a sense of destiny", adding that it has a "sense of moving forward to a better place". Earlier this year, Starmer confirmed he is planning to renegotiate the UK's relationship with the EU if he is elected. www.gbnews.com/politics/keir-starmer-eu-anthem-labour-party-ode-to-joyI know what you're thinking, 'Is this news? Everyone knows Starmer is pro EU'. Well yes, you're right. But I thought I'd mention it anyway. Ode to joy. The 9th symphony by Beethoven. Oh Beethoven that well known EU supporter. You got em there Red. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2023 17:02:00 GMT
Bit too rich for today’s lefties ?
“ Then raise the scarlet standard high
Beneath its folds we'll live and die
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer
We'll keep the red flag flying here”
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Post by zanygame on Nov 25, 2023 17:16:25 GMT
Bit too rich for today’s lefties ? “ Then raise the scarlet standard high Beneath its folds we'll live and die Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll keep the red flag flying here” Curious, do the Tories have an anthem. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2023 17:21:21 GMT
Bit too rich for today’s lefties ? “ Then raise the scarlet standard high Beneath its folds we'll live and die Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll keep the red flag flying here” Curious, do the Tories have an anthem. Same tune .. “The working class can kiss my arse . Ive got the foreman’s job at last “ |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 25, 2023 22:45:12 GMT
Bit too rich for today’s lefties ? “ Then raise the scarlet standard high Beneath its folds we'll live and die Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer We'll keep the red flag flying here” Curious, do the Tories have an anthem. And did those feet in ancient time Walk upon England's mountains green? And was the holy Lamb of God On England's pleasant pastures seen? And did the Countenance Divine Shine forth upon our clouded hills? And was Jerusalem builded here Among these dark Satanic mills? Bring me my bow of burning gold: Bring me my arrows of desire: Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold! Bring me my chariot of fire. I will not cease from mental fight, Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand Till we have built Jerusalem In England's green and pleasant land. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 25, 2023 22:52:37 GMT
Curious, do the Tories have an anthem. And did those feet in ancient time Walk upon England's mountains green? And was the holy Lamb of God On England's pleasant pastures seen? And did the Countenance Divine Shine forth upon our clouded hills? And was Jerusalem builded here Among these dark Satanic mills? Bring me my bow of burning gold: Bring me my arrows of desire: Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold! Bring me my chariot of fire. I will not cease from mental fight, Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand Till we have built Jerusalem In England's green and pleasant land. Jerusalem of course. Ironic. Did you know the dark satanic mills refers to churches? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 25, 2023 23:43:53 GMT
And did those feet in ancient time Walk upon England's mountains green? And was the holy Lamb of God On England's pleasant pastures seen? And did the Countenance Divine Shine forth upon our clouded hills? And was Jerusalem builded here Among these dark Satanic mills? Bring me my bow of burning gold: Bring me my arrows of desire: Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold! Bring me my chariot of fire. I will not cease from mental fight, Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand Till we have built Jerusalem In England's green and pleasant land. Jerusalem of course. Ironic. Did you know the dark satanic mills refers to churches? Nope..the dark and terrible factories built during the Industrial Revolution . The phrase "dark Satanic Mills", which entered the English language from this poem, is often interpreted as referring to the early Industrial Revolution and its destruction of nature and human relationships. That view has been linked to the fate of the Albion Flour Mills in Southwark, the first major factory in London. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time#:~:text=The%20phrase%20%22dark%20Satanic%20Mills,first%20major%20factory%20in%20London. Youre welcome 🤗 |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 26, 2023 8:17:34 GMT
Jerusalem of course. Ironic. Did you know the dark satanic mills refers to churches? Nope..the dark and terrible factories built during the Industrial Revolution . The phrase "dark Satanic Mills", which entered the English language from this poem, is often interpreted as referring to the early Industrial Revolution and its destruction of nature and human relationships. That view has been linked to the fate of the Albion Flour Mills in Southwark, the first major factory in London. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time#:~:text=The%20phrase%20%22dark%20Satanic%20Mills,first%20major%20factory%20in%20London. Youre welcome 🤗 That's what I always thought, but then an expert on some TV program said it was the churches. Another interpretation is that the phrase refers to the established Church of England, which, in contrast to Blake, preached a doctrine of conformity to the established social order and class system. Stonehenge and other megaliths are featured in Milton, suggesting they may relate to the oppressive power of priestcraft in general. Peter Porter observed that many scholars argue that the "[mills] are churches and not the factories of the Industrial Revolution everyone else takes them for".[17] In 2007, the Bishop of Durham, N. T. Wright, explicitly recognised that element of English subculture when he acknowledged the view that "dark satanic mills" could refer to the "great churches". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time#:~:text=Wright%2C%20explicitly%20recognised%20that%20element,to%20the%20%22great%20churches%22. www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/sep/12/william-blakes-dark-satanic-mills |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2023 10:00:40 GMT
Curious, do the Tories have an anthem. And did those feet in ancient time Walk upon England's mountains green? And was the holy Lamb of God On England's pleasant pastures seen? And did the Countenance Divine Shine forth upon our clouded hills? And was Jerusalem builded here Among these dark Satanic mills? Bring me my bow of burning gold: Bring me my arrows of desire: Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold! Bring me my chariot of fire. I will not cease from mental fight, Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand Till we have built Jerusalem In England's green and pleasant land. Great words and I love the Emerson Lake and Palmer version. As for the words - poppycock.  As my friend used to say - bad theology boyo. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2023 10:02:41 GMT
Nope..the dark and terrible factories built during the Industrial Revolution . The phrase "dark Satanic Mills", which entered the English language from this poem, is often interpreted as referring to the early Industrial Revolution and its destruction of nature and human relationships. That view has been linked to the fate of the Albion Flour Mills in Southwark, the first major factory in London. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time#:~:text=The%20phrase%20%22dark%20Satanic%20Mills,first%20major%20factory%20in%20London. Youre welcome 🤗 That's what I always thought, but then an expert on some TV program said it was the churches. Another interpretation is that the phrase refers to the established Church of England, which, in contrast to Blake, preached a doctrine of conformity to the established social order and class system. Stonehenge and other megaliths are featured in Milton, suggesting they may suggesting they may relate to the oppressive power of priestcraft in general. Peter Porter observed that many scholars argue that the "[mills] are churches and not the factories of the Industrial Revolution everyone else takes them for".[17] In 2007, the Bishop of Durham, N. T. Wright, explicitly recognised that element of English subculture when he acknowledged the view that "dark satanic mills" could refer to the "great churches". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time#:~:text=Wright%2C%20explicitly%20recognised%20that%20element,to%20the%20%22great%20churches%22. www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/sep/12/william-blakes-dark-satanic-millsThe ‘ expert ‘ ……suggesting they may………so he didn’t say they were . Its a load of bollocks Don’t believe what you read in the Guardian. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 26, 2023 11:31:12 GMT
That's what I always thought, but then an expert on some TV program said it was the churches. Another interpretation is that the phrase refers to the established Church of England, which, in contrast to Blake, preached a doctrine of conformity to the established social order and class system. Stonehenge and other megaliths are featured in Milton, suggesting they may suggesting they may relate to the oppressive power of priestcraft in general. Peter Porter observed that many scholars argue that the "[mills] are churches and not the factories of the Industrial Revolution everyone else takes them for".[17] In 2007, the Bishop of Durham, N. T. Wright, explicitly recognised that element of English subculture when he acknowledged the view that "dark satanic mills" could refer to the "great churches". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_time#:~:text=Wright%2C%20explicitly%20recognised%20that%20element,to%20the%20%22great%20churches%22. www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/sep/12/william-blakes-dark-satanic-millsThe ‘ expert ‘ ……suggesting they may………so he didn’t say they were . Its a load of bollocks Don’t believe what you read in the Guardian. There is no real evidence either way. As Blake never stated the meaning. However he was a Methodist Christian and did hate the dark churches and their preaching of orthodoxy. |
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