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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 29, 2023 13:33:22 GMT
John, the way leaders of the Tory party are chosen leaves a lot to be desired, but you know perfectly well it's not a matter for the sovereign. The Sovereign appoints the prime minister he, or indeed she, is told to appoint. But they could in principle say bugger that, i’m not having that arse in that job, and pick another. That was the deal, nobody ever struck it down and because of that, i think this legal move will fail. The Queen met Liz Truss and then decided enough was enough. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 29, 2023 14:03:59 GMT
But they could in principle say bugger that, i’m not having that arse in that job, and pick another. That was the deal, nobody ever struck it down and because of that, i think this legal move will fail. The Queen met Liz Truss and then decided enough was enough. It's not up to the throne to choose pm's thank god. |
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Post by dappy on Nov 29, 2023 14:08:29 GMT
Strictly speaking it absolutely is
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 29, 2023 14:22:10 GMT
Strictly speaking it absolutely is There's more chance of Putin and Zelenskyy having a gay love affair. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 29, 2023 16:29:14 GMT
Strictly speaking it absolutely is There's more chance of Putin and Zelenskyy having a gay love affair. again, the point to make for the purpose of this thread is that the legal action is utterly doomed to fail because the party does NOT appoint the prime minister, the process is that the leader of the largest group on the government side goes to the palace and the sovereign performs the ritual that makes them their majesty’s prime minister. But there is nothing binding the sovereign to appoint whatever comes through the door. I’ve been trying to explain that this is the reality and as a result this action cannot possibly succeed. This has stuff all to do with the likelihood that the sovereign will choose someone else. I’m sure Charlie Lug Nuts would love to strip Megan of her titles declare her the common bitch she is and send HER to live on less than £200k plus perks but dedpite the fact i for one would PAY to watch that, it aint gonna happen is it |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 29, 2023 16:37:54 GMT
There's more chance of Putin and Zelenskyy having a gay love affair. again, the point to make for the purpose of this thread is that the legal action is utterly doomed to fail because the party does NOT appoint the prime minister, the process is that the leader of the largest group on the government side goes to the palace and the sovereign performs the ritual that makes them their majesty’s prime minister. But there is nothing binding the sovereign to appoint whatever comes through the door. I’ve been trying to explain that this is the reality and as a result this action cannot possibly succeed. This has stuff all to do with the likelihood that the sovereign will choose someone else. I’m sure Charlie Lug Nuts would love to strip Megan of her titles declare her the common bitch she is and send HER to live on less than £200k plus perks but dedpite the fact i for one would PAY to watch that, it aint gonna happen is it Not quite sure if that is right. The person who goes to the Palace is the one who can command the most support in parliament, that is normally the leader of the largest party but does not have to be. That person is asked to form HM government on the assumption that parliament will not oppose. If I recall Churchill was not leader of the Tories in 1940. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 29, 2023 16:43:52 GMT
The ‘absence of opposition’ is of course critical !
The original constitutional process had the sovereign send ‘a trusted advisor’ to westminster to attempt to form from those elected a group willing to govern in their majesty’s name, and the appointment was made on their return to advise they had achieved this.
It is also a matter overlooked by some (maggie for one) that the opposition are ‘Their Brittanic Majesty’s LOYAL opposition’
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