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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 26, 2023 11:48:17 GMT
Indeed Bancroft, Irish politicians have been far too liberal in their acceptance of EU migrants. Believe it or not Ireland has seen a 25% increase in population since 2021, that's massive. Irish people were not asked and were not prepared for it. Irish politicians know very well that such a sudden and huge population increase especially by people who have different values and beliefs has caused huge social problems but they refuse to acknowledge this and instead have taken the easy way out and are blaming any unrest on far right extremists. Young people are struggling to find work and housing is a massive issue, yet thousands of migrants continue to flood into Ireland from the EU, people are sick of it and only a fool would be surprised. Politicians who blame 'far right extremists' are stoking the flames. I was listening to a chap talking about Ireland on Youtube saying that it was certainly a strong possibility that Ireland withdraws from the EU, he was saying that Ireland is geographically quite far from Europe and most of their trade goes through England. He accepts it won't happen overnight yet he also acknowledges the UK could also go back into Europe. He did not mention the Irish working class specifically though I would think they would be the driver for pulling out, once they sense as a group the unfairness of Irish taxes supporting Johnny foreigner when they are not benefiting from the low tax economy that attract the major US corps that often employ foreign labour. If the working class vote their goes to a party pushing EU withdrawal it could certainly get interesting. I don't think Ireland can leave the EU, they owe the EU too much money. EU states are governed from Brussels, but the PIIGS are owned by Brussels, and Varadker knows it. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 26, 2023 12:03:26 GMT
Indeed, the authorities couldn't get this bit of info out fast enough could they. Have the authorities released the identity of the assailant yet, or is that still a state secret? The assailant hasn't been in a position to give interviews unlike Caio Benicio who has been doing the rounds. As soon as he is charged you will have his name but we know he is a naturalised Irish citizen who has lived in the region for around 20 years. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 26, 2023 12:23:46 GMT
Indeed, the authorities couldn't get this bit of info out fast enough could they. Have the authorities released the identity of the assailant yet, or is that still a state secret? The assailant hasn't been in a position to give interviews unlike Caio Benicio who has been doing the rounds. As soon as he is charged you will have his name but we know he is a naturalised Irish citizen who has lived in the region for around 20 years. LOL, yes indeed I noticed the authorities were at pains to point out the assailant is 'now' an Irish citizen. Which means he is one of hundreds of thousands of immigrants from the EU who the Irish government have given passports to. The announcement that he is 'now' an Irish citizen is bound to calm anti immigrant sentiment on the streets of Dublin. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 26, 2023 12:30:46 GMT
The assailant hasn't been in a position to give interviews unlike Caio Benicio who has been doing the rounds. As soon as he is charged you will have his name but we know he is a naturalised Irish citizen who has lived in the region for around 20 years. LOL, yes indeed I noticed the authorities were at pains to point out the assailant is a 'now' an Irish citizen. Which means he is one of hundreds of thousands of immigrants from the EU who the Irish government have given passports to. The announcement that he is 'now' an Irish citizen is bound to calm anti immigrant sentiment on the streets of Dublin. Where have you read that he is from the EU? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 26, 2023 12:59:05 GMT
LOL, yes indeed I noticed the authorities were at pains to point out the assailant is a 'now' an Irish citizen. Which means he is one of hundreds of thousands of immigrants from the EU who the Irish government have given passports to. The announcement that he is 'now' an Irish citizen is bound to calm anti immigrant sentiment on the streets of Dublin. Where have you read that he is from the EU? Stop being a pedant Monte, regardless of which Middle Eastern or African country he was born in I suspect he probably entered Ireland courtesy of the EU. I accept it's not impossible that he rowed from Africa to Ireland, but I think we both know it's unlikely. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 26, 2023 14:09:09 GMT
Where have you read that he is from the EU? Stop being a pedant Monte, regardless of which Middle Eastern or African country he was born in I suspect he probably entered Ireland courtesy of the EU. I accept it's not impossible that he rowed from Africa to Ireland, but I think we both know it's unlikely. Pure speculation. How do you know he didn't go to Ireland on a visa? Only 3% of immigrants come to this country on small boats after all. 97% are granted visas by your anti-immigration Tory party. It's no wonder they make such a fuss about small boats, they don't want you to realise that their promises about cutting immigration to 20,000 was all just lies to get them elected. No doubt you will vote for them again though. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 26, 2023 14:40:14 GMT
Where have you read that he is from the EU? Stop being a pedant Monte, regardless of which Middle Eastern or African country he was born in I suspect he probably entered Ireland courtesy of the EU. I accept it's not impossible that he rowed from Africa to Ireland, but I think we both know it's unlikely. I don't think Ireland's in Schengan. Hard to see how he could have got there without a visa 20 years ago, or what advantage would have been obtained by entering Ireland from another EU country. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 26, 2023 14:56:36 GMT
Stop being a pedant Monte, regardless of which Middle Eastern or African country he was born in I suspect he probably entered Ireland courtesy of the EU. I accept it's not impossible that he rowed from Africa to Ireland, but I think we both know it's unlikely. Pure speculation. How do you know he didn't go to Ireland on a visa? Only 3% of immigrants come to this country on small boats after all. 97% are granted visas by your anti-immigration Tory party. It's no wonder they make such a fuss about small boats, they don't want you to realise that their promises about cutting immigration to 20,000 was all just lies to get them elected. No doubt you will vote for them again though. Regarding the offender in question, we don't know anything. Why don't we know anything? Because for some reason the authorities wont say. This is doing nothing other than fuel speculation. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 26, 2023 14:58:53 GMT
Stop being a pedant Monte, regardless of which Middle Eastern or African country he was born in I suspect he probably entered Ireland courtesy of the EU. I accept it's not impossible that he rowed from Africa to Ireland, but I think we both know it's unlikely. I don't think Ireland's in Schengan. Hard to see how he could have got there without a visa 20 years ago, or what advantage would have been obtained by entering Ireland from another EU country. Thanks to the Irish authorities who for some reason remain tight lipped, it's all speculation. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 26, 2023 15:01:16 GMT
I don't think Ireland's in Schengan. Hard to see how he could have got there without a visa 20 years ago, or what advantage would have been obtained by entering Ireland from another EU country. Thanks to the Irish authorities who for some reason remain tight lipped, it's all speculation. I don't think it's speculation that Ireland wasn't in Schengen 20 years ago. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 26, 2023 15:21:18 GMT
Pure speculation. How do you know he didn't go to Ireland on a visa? Only 3% of immigrants come to this country on small boats after all. 97% are granted visas by your anti-immigration Tory party. It's no wonder they make such a fuss about small boats, they don't want you to realise that their promises about cutting immigration to 20,000 was all just lies to get them elected. No doubt you will vote for them again though. Regarding the offender in question, we don't know anything. Why don't we know anything? Because for some reason the authorities wont say. This is doing nothing other than fuel speculation. They probably don't know how important you are Red or I'm sure they'd have let you know straight away. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 26, 2023 15:28:52 GMT
Regarding the offender in question, we don't know anything. Why don't we know anything? Because for some reason the authorities wont say. This is doing nothing other than fuel speculation. They probably don't know how important you are Red or I'm sure they'd have let you know straight away. It's easy to imagine public safety advantages to a delayed information release (minimised risk of retribution against innocent members of that ethnic group), but I can't think of a single advantage to be gained by releasing it right now. Do people actually believe that the gratification of their curiosity is a more important consideration than public safety? Information was withheld for public safety reasons. It's not rocket science! |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 26, 2023 15:57:35 GMT
They probably don't know how important you are Red or I'm sure they'd have let you know straight away. It's easy to imagine public safety advantages to a delayed information release (minimised risk of retribution against innocent members of that ethnic group), but I can't think of a single advantage to be gained by releasing it right now. Do people actually believe that the gratification of their curiosity is a more important consideration than public safety? Information was withheld for public safety reasons. It's not rocket science! Sure but a quick telegram to Red would have spared his anguish. They need to reassess their priorities. I'm sure there will be questions in the House after this debacle. |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 26, 2023 16:00:48 GMT
It's easy to imagine public safety advantages to a delayed information release (minimised risk of retribution against innocent members of that ethnic group), but I can't think of a single advantage to be gained by releasing it right now. Do people actually believe that the gratification of their curiosity is a more important consideration than public safety? Information was withheld for public safety reasons. It's not rocket science! Sure but a quick telegram to Red would have spared his anguish. They need to reassess their priorities. I'm sure there will be questions in the House after this debacle. Red is the real victim in all of this. I'm setting up a GoFundMe account just for him. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 26, 2023 16:03:33 GMT
Sure but a quick telegram to Red would have spared his anguish. They need to reassess their priorities. I'm sure there will be questions in the House after this debacle. Red is the real victim in all of this. He died for all our sins. |
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