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Post by Einhorn on Nov 23, 2023 19:40:30 GMT
This might help. I don't know how you could have missed it. It's at the end of the article:
'The resolution in reality changes little. It gives an insight into the consensus of the parliament but treaty change ultimately remains a matter upon which unanimity among member state governments is required.'
If a power is not already contained within the treaties, nothing can be done without the unanimous consent of every member state. So, the EU has not given itself extra powers. It has utilised powers it was already given by the treaties.
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 24, 2023 13:22:27 GMT
This might help. I don't know how you could have missed it. It's at the end of the article: 'The resolution in reality changes little. It gives an insight into the consensus of the parliament b ut treaty change ultimately remains a matter upon which unanimity among member state governments is required.'
If a power is not already contained within the treaties, nothing can be done without the unanimous consent of every member state. So, the EU has not given itself extra powers. It has utilised powers it was already given by the treaties.The vote was for exactly what your saying 'Treaty change ' the main point being the unanimity voting system and the removal of national veto .As we all know the EU will get its own way in the end . A change of text here and there and before you know it some unelected muppet is flying to Lisbon in the middle of the night to sign away the sovereignty of the nation . tvpworld.com/74276174/ep-votes-in-favor-of-changes-to-the-eu-treaties I hope they pull it off and get their federalist state ,the UK would never join under those proposals |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 24, 2023 13:26:20 GMT
This might help. I don't know how you could have missed it. It's at the end of the article: 'The resolution in reality changes little. It gives an insight into the consensus of the parliament b ut treaty change ultimately remains a matter upon which unanimity among member state governments is required.'
If a power is not already contained within the treaties, nothing can be done without the unanimous consent of every member state. So, the EU has not given itself extra powers. It has utilised powers it was already given by the treaties.The vote was for exactly what your saying 'Treaty change ' the main point being the unanimity voting system and the removal of national veto .As we all know the EU will get its own way in the end . A change of text here and there and before you know it some unelected muppet is flying to Lisbon in the middle of the night to sign away the sovereignty of the nation . tvpworld.com/74276174/ep-votes-in-favor-of-changes-to-the-eu-treaties I hope they pull it off and get their federalist state ,the UK would never join under those proposals The national veto will only be removed if every member state agrees to that. How is that unfair? |
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 24, 2023 14:03:31 GMT
The vote was for exactly what your saying 'Treaty change ' the main point being the unanimity voting system and the removal of national veto .As we all know the EU will get its own way in the end . A change of text here and there and before you know it some unelected muppet is flying to Lisbon in the middle of the night to sign away the sovereignty of the nation . tvpworld.com/74276174/ep-votes-in-favor-of-changes-to-the-eu-treaties I hope they pull it off and get their federalist state ,the UK would never join under those proposals The national veto will only be removed if every member state agrees to that. How is that unfair? I wouldn't be so sure ,already its been noted by some that unanimous agreement is required on 'the most important' decisions on the EU . Of course its the EU that decides whats important or not , whats a treaty change and whats a tidying up of text exercise . We will see further down the road who stands up to it and speaks out , a Polish minister has already called it a deadly threat |
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 24, 2023 14:06:51 GMT
The national veto will only be removed if every member state agrees to that. How is that unfair? I wouldn't be so sure ,already its been noted by some that unanimous agreement is required on 'the most important' decisions on the EU . Of course its the EU that decides whats important or not , whats a treaty change and whats a tidying up of text exercise . We will see further down the road who stands up to it and speaks out , a Polish minister has already called it a deadly threat The 'EU' doesn't decide. The treaties decide. If the 'EU' acts outside the powers conferred by the treaties, the ECJ will strike their actions down. They do that all the time. |
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