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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2023 16:29:29 GMT
There's no "circle" to "square". Homophobia is, to reasonable people, as much a red line as racism. And that goes as much for homophobia born of a "religious" motivation as anywhere else. I was one of the people, a decade ago, who handed a leaflet in to the Derby police calling for gay people to be killed. (Local Islamists were charged, and later found guilty). Over the years, I've probably argued with just as many "Christians" as "Muslims" over homophobia. I'm not about to play favourites on that one. It may come as a shock to some here to learn that there's such a thing as "binary thinking": I have absolutely no problem with anyone holding any religious views - so long as they keep to the law. I believe Palestinians have a right to a homeland - and Israel has every right to expect to exist and live in peace. I admire the works of Caravaggio, Roman Polanski, and John Wayne - while fully acknowledging that they were/are rotten human beings. See? Binary Thinking. Not so difficult as you might imagine. Which really begs the question why participate in the exposure of the BNP membership list whose members had not broken the law nor were they members of an illegal political party. When one knows that exposure would risk physical harm and criminal acts. Is it only 'religious views' that demand respect for holding views even if they are proselytising religion. You could spend all day finding massive holes in their logic, they'll just ignore it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2023 16:31:57 GMT
If you think only lefties are CONFUSED on this subject you are wrong, you in your rather arrogant approach are equally confused. In reading the posts so far I see a glaring absence of the obvious, i.e. IT IS THE PARENTS WHO NEED EDUCATING not the children. Better informed parents are the best people to deal with easing the problems of the child. Dictatorial parents who are unable to understand the problems of the child, will still do damage to the child, but sensible parents, helped by a better understanding of the human condition, will handle the problem with their children better than some well meaning equally single minded individual writing programmes of instructions for teachers. No one has an answer as to why some people feel they are in the wrong body, but it is not a recent so called woke problem, it goes back thousands of years. I don't for a moment think it's only lefties who are confused. A large proportion of society are politically ambivalent/ignorant. Some people have switched off from politics because they're sick of it, others were never interested in the first place. In my experience when it comes to politics a lot of young parents come under the heading 'not interested', some of them never watch the news they don't know what 'current affairs' means, in some cases they don't even know who the prime minister is, yet Starmer wants ballot boxes in schools! As for children being in the 'wrong body', this is woke nonsense it's absolute nonsense. Body dysmorphia affects an infinitesimally small percentage of people, yet schools ask children if they feel they're in the wrong body, they encourage children to think they're in the wrong body. This is nothing more than woke left wing teachers brainwashing impressionable children, it's wrong and it should be stopped. I would say this will create a lot of psychological issues, but I think the main reason behind it is to see how far they can go with other people's children.
The Left have always resented the family network and have always attempted to brainwash kids, even against the parents knowledge and will. I'd recommend removing the perverts from teaching and send the education board behind it to prison.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 16:52:18 GMT
I agree this isn't suitable for primary age kids. Indeed, any sensible person would agree that this sort of trans woke nonsense should be kept well away from impressionable school children, which is of course precisely why progressive lefties indoctrinate school children, they're impressionable. My only surprise is the government, a supposedly conservative government, allow schools to brainwash young impressionable children, it's scandal. And consider this; if this is what it's like under a Tory government, imagine what it would be like with BLM supporting, woke supporting left wing Starmer as prime minister. Has there ever been a worse time in post war Britain to be a child in this country? I think probably not. It's very true that young children can be impressionable, Red. Some have been known to believe in talking snakes for their entire lives after indoctrination at school.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 16:54:11 GMT
I don't for a moment think it's only lefties who are confused. A large proportion of society are politically ambivalent/ignorant. Some people have switched off from politics because they're sick of it, others were never interested in the first place. In my experience when it comes to politics a lot of young parents come under the heading 'not interested', some of them never watch the news they don't know what 'current affairs' means, in some cases they don't even know who the prime minister is, yet Starmer wants ballot boxes in schools! As for children being in the 'wrong body', this is woke nonsense it's absolute nonsense. Body dysmorphia affects an infinitesimally small percentage of people, yet schools ask children if they feel they're in the wrong body, they encourage children to think they're in the wrong body. This is nothing more than woke left wing teachers brainwashing impressionable children, it's wrong and it should be stopped. I would say this will create a lot of psychological issues, but I think the main reason behind it is to see how far they can go with other people's children.
The Left have always resented the family network and have always attempted to brainwash kids, even against the parents knowledge and will. I'd recommend removing the perverts from teaching and send the education board behind it to prison.
I'm glad my kids aren't at school now that's for sure. You will no doubt be aware that schools fine parents for taking children out of school without good reason. Yet left wing teachers take children out of school to demonstrate against Israel. It's mad, and they are doing it because they know this Tory government, for some reason, will pander to disruptive lefties.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 16:56:30 GMT
Indeed, any sensible person would agree that this sort of trans woke nonsense should be kept well away from impressionable school children, which is of course precisely why progressive lefties indoctrinate school children, they're impressionable. My only surprise is the government, a supposedly conservative government, allow schools to brainwash young impressionable children, it's scandal. And consider this; if this is what it's like under a Tory government, imagine what it would be like with BLM supporting, woke supporting left wing Starmer as prime minister. Has there ever been a worse time in post war Britain to be a child in this country? I think probably not. It's very true that young children can be impressionable, Red. Some have been known to believe in talking snakes for their entire lives after indoctrination at school. I'm buggered if I understand that.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 17:02:24 GMT
It's very true that young children can be impressionable, Red. Some have been known to believe in talking snakes for their entire lives after indoctrination at school. I'm buggered if I understand that. Good man!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2023 17:11:33 GMT
I'm buggered if I understand that. Good man! You do know that it's actually harmful, right? Even Christians know it's unclean and can cause serious damage to the bunghole and passage. It's why some homosexuals have to go do hospital to have anal stretch treatment.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 20, 2023 17:15:27 GMT
Indeed, any sensible person would agree that this sort of trans woke nonsense should be kept well away from impressionable school children, which is of course precisely why progressive lefties indoctrinate school children, they're impressionable. My only surprise is the government, a supposedly conservative government, allow schools to brainwash young impressionable children, it's scandal. And consider this; if this is what it's like under a Tory government, imagine what it would be like with BLM supporting, woke supporting left wing Starmer as prime minister. Has there ever been a worse time in post war Britain to be a child in this country? I think probably not. It's very true that young children can be impressionable, Red. Some have been known to believe in talking snakes for their entire lives after indoctrination at school. I was raised in a household where religion was not practised, at school the Church of Scotland was the direction of religious teaching, we did bible readings every morning and even at the age of 6 I was perplexed by the belief that a loving God could ask a father to sacrifice his son to Him, even if he did save him at the last minute. However in those days we were encouraged to have enquiring minds and to seek answers as opposed to accepting what we were taught. It seems that nowadays belief and dogma of all sorts is the order of the day and instead asking can a man be a woman, or is the planet really warming due to us, they are taught a man can be a woman and is a woman when he says so and the planet is warming becasue of us and millions will die unless we do as we are told. It seems the talking snake has shed its skin and taken human form.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 17:19:30 GMT
You do know that it's actually harmful, right? Even Christians know it's unclean and can cause serious damage to the bunghole and passage. It's why some homosexuals have to go do hospital to have anal stretch treatment. 😲 What I mean what in the wide wide world of sport are you talking about? On second thoughts, don't tell me.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 17:20:08 GMT
You do know that it's actually harmful, right? Even Christians know it's unclean and can cause serious damage to the bunghole and passage. It's why some homosexuals have to go do hospital to have anal stretch treatment.
Who are we to question Red's life-style choices?
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 20, 2023 17:21:03 GMT
It's very true that young children can be impressionable, Red. Some have been known to believe in talking snakes for their entire lives after indoctrination at school. I was raised in a household where religion was not practised, at school the Church of Scotland was the direction of religious teaching, we did bible readings every morning and even at the age of 6 I was perplexed by the belief that a loving God could ask a father to sacrifice his son to Him, even if he did save him at the last minute. However in those days we were encouraged to have enquiring minds and to seek answers as opposed to accepting what we were taught. It seems that nowadays belief and dogma of all sorts is the order of the day and instead asking can a man be a woman, or is the planet really warming due to us, they are taught a man can be a woman and is a woman when he says so and the planet is warming becasue of us and millions will die unless we do as we are told. It seems the talking snake has shed its skin and taken human form. Well said SP.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 17:22:49 GMT
It's very true that young children can be impressionable, Red. Some have been known to believe in talking snakes for their entire lives after indoctrination at school. I was raised in a household where religion was not practised, at school the Church of Scotland was the direction of religious teaching, we did bible readings every morning and even at the age of 6 I was perplexed by the belief that a loving God could ask a father to sacrifice his son to Him, even if he did save him at the last minute. However in those days we were encouraged to have enquiring minds and to seek answers as opposed to accepting what we were taught. It seems that nowadays belief and dogma of all sorts is the order of the day and instead asking can a man be a woman, or is the planet really warming due to us, they are taught a man can be a woman and is a woman when he says so and the planet is warming becasue of us and millions will die unless we do as we are told. It seems the talking snake has shed its skin and taken human form. Really? Teaching children about talking snakes, burning bushes, the entire animal kingdom fitting into a boat, etc., is not indoctrination? I beg to differ.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 17:23:43 GMT
I was raised in a household where religion was not practised, at school the Church of Scotland was the direction of religious teaching, we did bible readings every morning and even at the age of 6 I was perplexed by the belief that a loving God could ask a father to sacrifice his son to Him, even if he did save him at the last minute. However in those days we were encouraged to have enquiring minds and to seek answers as opposed to accepting what we were taught. It seems that nowadays belief and dogma of all sorts is the order of the day and instead asking can a man be a woman, or is the planet really warming due to us, they are taught a man can be a woman and is a woman when he says so and the planet is warming becasue of us and millions will die unless we do as we are told. It seems the talking snake has shed its skin and taken human form. Well said SP. Damn right, Red! More talking snakes!!! That's definitely not indoctrination! And it never did you any harm, did it? Look at the well-rounded individual you turned out to be. It's perfectly normal and healthy to celebrate the death by drowning of fellow human beings, after all. How many do you hope will drown in the channel next week?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2023 17:29:05 GMT
You do know that it's actually harmful, right? Even Christians know it's unclean and can cause serious damage to the bunghole and passage. It's why some homosexuals have to go do hospital to have anal stretch treatment. 😲 What I mean what in the wide wide world of sport are you talking about? On second thoughts, don't tell me. I got the impression Darling was excited by your use of the word buggered (sodomy). On a thread where children are taught that women don't always have a vagina I thought it best to mention it. You know, to get to the root of their perversion. It's not a homophobic argument, just a medical fact. Anyone who suggests a biological medical fact is a phobia is clearly mental.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 20, 2023 17:30:41 GMT
😲 What I mean what in the wide wide world of sport are you talking about? On second thoughts, don't tell me. I got the impression Darling was excited by your use of the word buggered (sodomy). On a thread where children are taught that women don't always have a vagina I thought it best to mention it. You know, to get to the root of their perversion. It's not a homophobic argument, just a medical fact. Anyone who suggests a biological medical fact is a phobia is clearly mental. You seem fixated with it, B.O. That's okay. It's your life. Be happy!
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