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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 8:35:46 GMT
Hmmm what could have distracted the government since that manifesto was written? Put the shoe on the other foot, do you think Corbyn would have met his manifesto pledges given COVID and Putin's war? Do you think a single world leader has met theirs in the last 2 years? Corbyn might have done a better job than Johnson. The thing about Corbyn is he's a fairly modest man so he may well have left the entire control of the pandemic in the hands of experts and made sure the experts knew their shit. He would most certainly avoid American advice too. I think Corbyn was more naive than modest. He was a bit like Truss totally unaware of the possible 'unforeseen circumstances'. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 8:42:11 GMT
Hmmm what could have distracted the government since that manifesto was written? Put the shoe on the other foot, do you think Corbyn would have met his manifesto pledges given COVID and Putin's war? Do you think a single world leader has met theirs in the last 2 years? IMO it was a major and probably a dishonest plank of the Tory determination to win the election. Otherwise, one might have expected at least some small move indicating the intentions of doing something about leveling up. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 8:45:31 GMT
Brexit's impact on the economy is absolutely trivial - the are far more important things to worry about than something as inconsequential as Brexit From what I have heard on TV even from the PM, Brexit has worked against the UK economy. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 8, 2022 8:46:13 GMT
Brexit's impact on the economy is absolutely trivial - the are far more important things to worry about than something as inconsequential as Brexit From what I have heard on TV even from the PM, Brexit has worked against the UK economy. How? |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 8, 2022 8:53:20 GMT
Brexit's impact on the economy is absolutely trivial - the are far more important things to worry about than something as inconsequential as Brexit From what I have heard on TV even from the PM, Brexit has worked against the UK economy. He isn't a forward thinker either, he is of the old school globalist banker type, so like I said want something fecked up, put the Westminster party in charge. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 9:04:03 GMT
From what I have heard on TV even from the PM, Brexit has worked against the UK economy. How? You will have to ask Rishi Sunak and the others who made such comments. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 8, 2022 9:41:20 GMT
Paffico I posted how the uk had suffered since Brexit in the EU section and you simply dismissed it because it came from the FT
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 8, 2022 11:23:39 GMT
Paffico I posted how the uk had suffered since Brexit in the EU section and you simply dismissed it because it came from the FT And if I posted how brexit was good from a UKIP website how much credence would you have placed on that? I rather discus specific data showing that 'x' or 'y' happened rather than the polarised opinions of campaigners. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 8, 2022 12:07:57 GMT
Well I wouldn't simply dissmiss i would of looked at other evidence about the British economy such as the g7 report and the eu report
What says that the British economy is worse off .
Look at other reports stating that the economy is worse off post brexit because of brexit.
And the I take into account what the Govenment states the British economy fallen after referendum
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 15:14:10 GMT
Starmer will re-join the EU, but it will be because the British people will demand it and all the people, like you, who have done untold damage to the country will have to suck it up. Tory U Turns > 200 😂 Well, unlike you, I respect the will of the people. If Starmer wants to have another referendum and all the circus that brings with it then if he wins an election he is perfectly entitled to have one. Although given how wrong polling on EU membership has been in the past I'm not so convinced that rejoin will win. But again, unlike you, I would respect the result. With regards to u-turns - perhaps that level of flexibility is why the Tories keep winning elections and Labour does not?. Now their U turns are being called flexible. 😂 Starmer will be perfectly entitled to be just as flexible then. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 8, 2022 16:07:44 GMT
Well I wouldn't simply dissmiss i would of looked at other evidence about the British economy such as the g7 report and the eu report What says that the British economy is worse off . Look at other reports stating that the economy is worse off post brexit because of brexit. And the I take into account what the Govenment states the British economy fallen after referendum OK - lets look at reports.     The reality is that Brexit has had remarkably little impact on the UK economy one way or the other. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2022 22:29:43 GMT
Well I wouldn't simply dissmiss i would of looked at other evidence about the British economy such as the g7 report and the eu report What says that the British economy is worse off . Look at other reports stating that the economy is worse off post brexit because of brexit. And the I take into account what the Govenment states the British economy fallen after referendum OK - lets look at reports. The reality is that Brexit has had remarkably little impact on the UK economy one way or the other. The claim is that Brexit is working against the UK economy. Is that why the CLAIMED 7.4% growth 2021 came down to a 3.6% estimated growth for 2022? The EU drop in growth to 2022 estimated at around half the drop of the UK. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 8, 2022 22:54:27 GMT
The claim is that Brexit is working against the UK economy. Is that why the CLAIMED 7.4% growth 2021 came down to a 3.6% estimated growth for 2022? The EU drop in growth to 2022 estimated at around half the drop of the UK. There is nothing claimed at all - the economy did grow by 7.4% last year. The argument is that brexit is holding the UK economy back - well if that is the case then the UK would be growing even faster against the eurozone than we are now. Something I find rather fanciful especially given the labour shortages in the economy. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 8, 2022 23:02:39 GMT
So your relying on Growth estimates for 2002 estimates can swing either way positive or negative.
The bank of England says we be in recession for 3yrs thats including covid, war, and Brexit what all have a impact on our economy.
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 9, 2022 3:15:12 GMT
So your relying on Growth estimates for 2002 estimates can swing either way positive or negative. The bank of England says we be in recession for 3yrs thats including covid, war, and Brexit what all have a impact on our economy. Where are you getting 3 years from? The Bank of England said on 3rd Nov they expect a two-year slum, ending 2024. The general consensus is that a recession will last till mid 2023 - early 2024. I can literally find nobody saying it will be 3 years. Are you failing for a stupid spin trick of including this year and then the whole of 2024?? |
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