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Post by piglet on Nov 18, 2023 11:52:44 GMT
In the Guardian David Cameron explains how he will give away billions of dollars to poor countries in the future, or is it now?, i havent read it. This will be to regimes who will buy guns and new cars. Is there an analysis of how the money was used in the past? I bet not.
This at a time in Britain that is as bad financially and socially as the end of ww2, it could not come at a worse time. What was he thinking? The most important thing is to show hes nice, while the people at home are suffering badly.
The Tories are completely out of touch.
If Cameron could only buy basic cheap food, have sparse heating, have to darn clothes because new are out of reach etc, he would play a different tune. Hes rich though, as are the rest.
Oh, and like my partner and myself, get substandard dangerous rationed health care. The list of problems is enormous, but he doesnt care. Im alright chuck. Britain is heading to third world status, betrayed by every and all governments. How long are we going to put up with this? And saying what he did, has further cut the electability of the Tories, couple that with everything else immigration etc, the Tories dont give a hoot about the up coming election.
Is this a measurement of their psychosis, or taking it for granted they will be elected?
Out with Labour, the Tories, Parliament and all within, local councils, the entire political structure, its all corrupt as Putins Russia. There is no democracy, the rich do as they please at the poor mans expense.
OUT I SAY OUTTTTTTTTTT. Yes i am hinting at insurrection.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2023 12:08:21 GMT
In the Guardian David Cameron explains how he will give away billions of dollars to poor countries in the future, or is it now?, i havent read it. This will be to regimes who will buy guns and new cars. Is there an analysis of how the money was used in the past? I bet not. This at a time in Britain that is as bad financially and socially as the end of ww2, it could not come at a worse time. What was he thinking? The most important thing is to show hes nice, while the people at home are suffering badly. The Tories are completely out of touch. If Cameron could only buy basic cheap food, have sparse heating, have to darn clothes because new are out of reach etc, he would play a different tune. Hes rich though, as are the rest. Oh, and like my partner and myself, get substandard dangerous rationed health care. The list of problems is enormous, but he doesnt care. Im alright chuck. Britain is heading to third world status, betrayed by every and all governments. How long are we going to put up with this? And saying what he did, has further cut the electability of the Tories, couple that with everything else immigration etc, the Tories dont give a hoot about the up coming election. Is this a measurement of their psychosis, or taking it for granted they will be elected? Out with Labour, the Tories, Parliament and all within, local councils, the entire political structure, its all corrupt as Putins Russia. There is no democracy, the rich do as they please at the poor mans expense. OUT I SAY OUTTTTTTTTTT. Yes i am hinting at insurrection. I agree with you on the rich that run this country being out of touch with real life. How can someone who has never gone without ever understand the poor. Easy to call the poor lazy and feckless for not achieving when mum and dad have always been there when your plans fail. There to make sure they succeed, that you meet the right people and get the best jobs and most favourable terms. Regards foreign aid. For me its a bit more complicated, how we act towards those in the rest of the world reflects on how they react to us. In most surveys the West come out as the type of society to aspire to and trading with the west is seen as safest. To me that has some value, though probably less than it used to. On top of that the whole world is in a mess at the moment with an estimated 105,000,000 displaced persons. So there has to come a point when we can no longer help everyone. All that said, we only put 0.5% of our GDP in foreign aid, so I don't think it would even cover the cost of pot holes let alone anything else. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2023 12:11:51 GMT
Funnily enough on a different thread I have hinted that if governments don't start doing something to help the poor we really could see civil strife.
For me that something is to bring house prices down. Mortgage payments and rents now represent 55 to 65% of the average income.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 18, 2023 12:19:21 GMT
We seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room, the utter failure of the representative democracy scam.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2023 13:00:54 GMT
We seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room, the utter failure of the representative democracy scam. I think Churchill said it was the best of the worst. I think its the current lack of choice that's causing issues. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2023 13:07:31 GMT
Foreign Aid is based upon one of the most basic and most fundamental instincts of humanity, and encouraged by all of the major faiths in the world - To help the less fortunate.
In 2020 our government was one of only five governments in the world to meet the U.N target for International Development Aid, 0.7% of GDP, together with Denmark, Sweden, Luxembourg and Norway.
Our government decided in their wisdom to cut the foreign aid budget from 0.7% of GDP, to 0.5% of GDP in 2021, and this had a direct and immediate effect on those needing aid in the civil war in Yemen, and on the fight against such diseases such as Polio and Malaria.
If the richer, developed nations cannot contribute A FRACTION of their wealth towards the poorer, under-developed nations, particularly those suffering fom disease, hunger, war or drought, then we cannot call ourselves civilised.
Foreign Aid is also an insurance policy, buying good faith, and under-developed nations become developing nations, with their own GDP, with future money to spend on the things we make.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2023 13:21:08 GMT
“ To help the less fortunate !”
Good idea . Let’s use those funds to help the homeless in the UK.
Braverman claims many of them are migrants so that should satisfy even the wokeist of the caring left 👍
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Post by sheepy on Nov 18, 2023 13:28:59 GMT
We seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room, the utter failure of the representative democracy scam. I think Churchill said it was the best of the worst. I think its the current lack of choice that's causing issues. You think, I guess pretty much the whole of the British empire finally came to the same conclusion, which Churchill never quite got a grip on, he might well have been a great war leader but he wasn't much come peace time. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2023 13:50:06 GMT
“ To help the less fortunate !” Good idea . Let’s use those funds to help the homeless in the UK. Braverman claims many of them are migrants so that should satisfy even the wokeist of the caring left 👍 A homeless person in this country can obtain food at A Food Kitchen, from Shelter (the organisation), from The Salvation Army, various Hostels, many Sikh and Hindu Temples, from some Churches, from Crisis (the organisation), from the Royal Voluntary Service, other local and national charities and voluntary organisations. Help, advice and assistance is almost always available to most homeless people, this includes clothing, medical help, and in some instances beds are available. "The less fortunate" is always proportionate, a homeless person in this country often has somewhere to turn to, unlike a homeless person in a third world country who's home was blown up by a missile, and where there is nowhere or no one to turn to, except perhaps the UN or a foreign aid sponsored camp. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2023 13:56:20 GMT
“ To help the less fortunate !” Good idea . Let’s use those funds to help the homeless in the UK. Braverman claims many of them are migrants so that should satisfy even the wokeist of the caring left 👍 A homeless person in this country can obtain food at A Food Kitchen, from Shelter (the organisation), from The Salvation Army, various Hostels, many Sikh and Hindu Temples, from some Churches, from Crisis (the organisation), from the Royal Voluntary Service, other local and national charities and voluntary organisations. Help, advice and assistance is almost always available to most homeless people, this includes clothing, medical help, and in some instances beds are available. "The less fortunate" is always proportionate, a homeless person in this country often has somewhere to turn to, unlike a homeless person in a third world country who's home was blown up by a missile, and where there is nowhere or no one to turn to, except perhaps the UN or a foreign aid sponsored camp. So the less fortunate in the UK are ‘ sorted’Ffs You want to help the less fortunate as long as they are not in the UK . Welcome to Planet leftie. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2023 14:04:37 GMT
No, I already do help the less fortunate in my own community where I live
What I am conveying to you is that without foreign aid and the UN, many people would simply die in third world countries.
Although people can die in this country by been homeless, it is not common, and help of some kind is usualy available, and that help is NOT foreign aid or the UN.
its all about context and perspective - Also, the percentage of the population in places such as Yemen who need help is a lot different to the numbers of say homeless people here. In this country its almost all single people, in other places in the world it is entire families, and entire villages.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2023 14:12:23 GMT
No, I already do help the less fortunate in my own community where I live What I am conveying to you is that without foreign aid and the UN, many people would simply die in third world countries. Although people can die in this country by been homeless, it is not common, and help of some kind is usualy available, and that help is NOT foreign aid or the UN. its all about context and perspective - Also, the percentage of the population in places such as Yemen who need help is a lot different to the numbers of say homeless people here. In this country its almost all single people, in other places in the world it is entire families, and entire villages. We are not talking about you but thank you for your involuntary virtue signal spasm . There are plenty of unfortunate UK citizens dying and suffering right in our doorstep. Helping them gives the caring left a lower dopermine rush apparently. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2023 16:03:34 GMT
“ To help the less fortunate !” Good idea . Let’s use those funds to help the homeless in the UK. Braverman claims many of them are migrants so that should satisfy even the wokeist of the caring left 👍 Buy tents? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2023 16:08:25 GMT
“ To help the less fortunate !” Good idea . Let’s use those funds to help the homeless in the UK. Braverman claims many of them are migrants so that should satisfy even the wokeist of the caring left 👍 Buy tents? Why ? |
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Post by Orac on Nov 18, 2023 16:09:47 GMT
A homeless person in this country can obtain food at A Food Kitchen, from Shelter (the organisation), from The Salvation Army, various Hostels, many Sikh and Hindu Temples, from some Churches, from Crisis (the organisation), from the Royal Voluntary Service, other local and national charities and voluntary organisations. Help, advice and assistance is almost always available to most homeless people, this includes clothing, medical help, and in some instances beds are available. "The less fortunate" is always proportionate, a homeless person in this country often has somewhere to turn to, unlike a homeless person in a third world country who's home was blown up by a missile, and where there is nowhere or no one to turn to, except perhaps the UN or a foreign aid sponsored camp. So the less fortunate in the UK are ‘ sorted’Ffs You want to help the less fortunate as long as they are not in the UK . Welcome to Planet leftie. Like many positions on the left, it is a form of societal trolling. By making the demand out of the scope of the containable or manageable, he hopes to attack society by lumbering it with potentially infinite costs. |
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