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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 13, 2023 13:33:58 GMT
Suella got somethings right, especially the double standards in policing and the fear of Islamists. As time goes on, it will become increasingly clear to many that she was substantially correct. Even many Labour voters are going to become aware that they are the actual target. The 'labour party' is going to increasing look like a Hamas / white genocide party Something else could happen - perhaps, but i think it's going to be tough for many to avoid seeing it despite their past investment in nonsense. I'm not that optimistic though - i think it will end in pitched battle sometime after the 2024 election (if we have one). I normally look to Fairsociety for hyperbolic posts, but to be fair that's a good effort.
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Post by Orac on Nov 13, 2023 13:44:54 GMT
As time goes on, it will become increasingly clear to many that she was substantially correct. Even many Labour voters are going to become aware that they are the actual target. The 'labour party' is going to increasing look like a Hamas / white genocide party Something else could happen - perhaps, but i think it's going to be tough for many to avoid seeing it despite their past investment in nonsense. I'm not that optimistic though - i think it will end in pitched battle sometime after the 2024 election (if we have one). I normally look to Fairsociety for hyperbolic posts, but to be fair that's a good effort. In due time my post will be seen as a very restrained estimate. The wildcard in the pack would be the conservative party being somehow upended. I think that's an outsider though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 13:57:11 GMT
Come on "The 'labour party' is going to increasing look like a Hamas / white genocide party", this is just utter tosh and you know it. it barely even counts as a prediction. It's already 55% there. The loss as the Conservatives as competition will seal the take-over. That's a very precise number, what poll are you basing it on?
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 13, 2023 14:28:21 GMT
It's as clear as day what's going on, the Remoaner plot is in action, Labour/Tories/Lib-Dem are in cahoots to get us back in the EU ..... while we are all witnessing it falling apart at the seams. My (French) champagne shall be in the fridge awaiting.
Tell you what, I'll ask you the same question that was asked to a bunch of Remoaner protesters ......... "what is it YOU miss about not being in the EU"?
after days of deliberation at least one old dear came up with something.... 'she can't get her German table cloths any more' ........ LOL
So andrew what did the EU do to enhance your life , and what is it you personally miss about them?
Take your time.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 13, 2023 14:33:48 GMT
My (French) champagne shall be in the fridge awaiting.
Tell you what, I'll ask you the same question that was asked to a bunch of Remoaner protesters ......... "what is it YOU miss about not being in the EU"?
after days of deliberation at least one old dear came up with something.... 'she can't get her German table cloths any more' ........ LOL
So andrew what did the EU do to enhance your life , and what is it you personally miss about them?
Take your time.
That question deserves a thread of its own. In fact there are already several threads on the subject. This thread is about the downfall of Braverman and the right wing of the Tory party.
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Post by Orac on Nov 13, 2023 14:39:14 GMT
it barely even counts as a prediction. It's already 55% there. The loss as the Conservatives as competition will seal the take-over. That's a very precise number, what poll are you basing it on? Labour's electoral dependency upon Muslims. The labour party can now take the easy route - and it will.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 13, 2023 14:39:45 GMT
Tell you what, I'll ask you the same question that was asked to a bunch of Remoaner protesters ......... "what is it YOU miss about not being in the EU"?
after days of deliberation at least one old dear came up with something.... 'she can't get her German table cloths any more' ........ LOL
So andrew what did the EU do to enhance your life , and what is it you personally miss about them?
Take your time.
That question deserves a thread of its own. In fact there are already several threads on the subject. This thread is about the downfall of Braverman and the right wing of the Tory party. I was responding to andrew popping his champagne cork.
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Post by Orac on Nov 13, 2023 14:42:22 GMT
I would have thought the conservatives becoming more electable would be bad news for supporters of Labour.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 15:20:22 GMT
That's a very precise number, what poll are you basing it on? Labour's electoral dependency upon Muslims. The labour party can now take the easy route - and it will. So no poll then, just your imagination.
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Post by Orac on Nov 13, 2023 15:37:24 GMT
Labour's electoral dependency upon Muslims. The labour party can now take the easy route - and it will. So no poll then, just your imagination. What would polling question be?
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 13, 2023 16:12:23 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Nov 13, 2023 16:23:04 GMT
Had the Muslims attacked the Jews and the Jews retaliated, 3000000 lefties would have blamed the Jews .
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 13, 2023 16:36:25 GMT
I'm just wondering what people think is going to change. The Police obviously just ignore anything the Politicians say so swapping one talking head for another is doing absolutely nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 16:42:06 GMT
Expect Graham Brady's safe to burst at the seams with letters from outraged Tory right wing MPs. Who cares? The country is more important than them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 16:48:36 GMT
Sunak has lost the plot, he's weak. In getting rid of Suella he has shown that he is more interested in appeasing pro EU centrists in the party than he is about listening to Tory voters. We can forget leaving the ECHR now. And lets not forget, Suella was popular among Labour voters who voted for Brexit and want the immigrant invasion stopped. The sooner Sunak is gone the better. Braverman only appealed to part of the Tory base like you, as well as elements of the far right. Everyone else - the vast majority of the electorate - were repelled by her conduct. But yes Sunak is weak. If he had any moral backbone Braverman would never have been in the cabinet to start with and certainly should have been sacked long ago.
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