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Post by sheepy on Nov 14, 2023 23:38:58 GMT
Firstly we are not responsible for how Israel and Hamas conduct themselves or their politics, people marching for peace is not a terrorist activity, the Likud party is as much to blame for the rise in anti-Semitism as is Hamas so no you can invent problems all you like, having broad enough shoulders to admit that the politics from both sides is the cause and will never be the answer is something else. Not everyone who marches for peace glorifies terror, but many who glorify terror marched alongside those who march for peace. And in the meantime, you turn the other cheek to the anti-semitism and racism, vandalism, physical aggression ad nauseam displayed by those you march with. The old left at least had a moral compass. This desperation to hang everything on the left is rather tedious, I pointed out that as a populist many times, we are not governed by some right and left politics. Read what I said not what you think I should say. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 15, 2023 4:46:24 GMT
Not everyone who marches for peace glorifies terror, but many who glorify terror marched alongside those who march for peace. And in the meantime, you turn the other cheek to the anti-semitism and racism, vandalism, physical aggression ad nauseam displayed by those you march with. The old left at least had a moral compass. This desperation to hang everything on the left is rather tedious, I pointed out that as a populist many times, we are not governed by some right and left politics. Read what I said not what you think I should say. I didn't say we were governed by some left/right politics. I said those you claim marched for peace, happily marched alongside those who glorify terrorism. |
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Post by wapentake on Nov 15, 2023 5:34:24 GMT
Well she’s certainly stuck the boot in   Ouch. If this is true, it demonstrates what a snake many thought Rishi to be. We've been at the mercy of many snakes over decades who failed to ensure the best for this country and people whilst filling their wallets and performing as the useful idiots for Washington even to be warned off leaving the eu by Obama because they were losing their voice in Brussels. The last politician to refuse one of their disastrous adventures was Wilson who flatly and rightly said no involvement in Vietnam. We are where we are now not just because of that but the failure to protect our values , way of life and of late control immigration. Mentioning that raises the racism label,I see no racism in preserving our way of life and have no problem with people who settle here embracing that way of life but that’s not what happens. Whilst Braverman was right over this I get the feeling it was as a route to higher office for her rather than a political belief. I have banged on about this but movement of people is going to accelerate and our involvement in the Middle East by Blair’s illegal war has made that worse. The conflict in Gaza will see many more trying to escape and the boats increase,harsh though it may seem we need to take a stand an idea that’s dawning across Europe. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 15, 2023 7:42:26 GMT
The problem is Sheepy, they were respectfully asked not to march on a significant weekend of national commemoration, that's all. However, because they don't hold British values and traditions and in many instances loathe the nation they live in, they were unable to reasonably and respectfully heed that request for one weekend. It just demonstrates how engineered "multiculturalism" and its integration has failed the UK state and sowed divisions. They were not asked not to march. Cruella asked the Met if they would refuse the march, the Met said they were happy for it to go ahead. You've totally misunderstood what happened, therefore come to an erroneous conclusion. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2023 8:23:10 GMT
The problem is Sheepy, they were respectfully asked not to march on a significant weekend of national commemoration, that's all. However, because they don't hold British values and traditions and in many instances loathe the nation they live in, they were unable to reasonably and respectfully heed that request for one weekend. It just demonstrates how engineered "multiculturalism" and its integration has failed the UK state and sowed divisions. . Cruella asked the Met if they would refuse the march, the Met said they were happy for it to go ahead. You've totally misunderstood what happened, therefore come to an erroneous conclusion. Oh yes they were. "Our message to organisers is clear: Please, we ask you to urgently reconsider. It is not appropriate to hold any protests in London this weekend."
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Post by sheepy on Nov 15, 2023 8:28:26 GMT
Which what stings a very small minority, is public opinion was proved correct.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 15, 2023 10:42:45 GMT
The problem is Sheepy, they were respectfully asked not to march on a significant weekend of national commemoration, that's all. However, because they don't hold British values and traditions and in many instances loathe the nation they live in, they were unable to reasonably and respectfully heed that request for one weekend. It just demonstrates how engineered "multiculturalism" and its integration has failed the UK state and sowed divisions. They were not asked not to march. Cruella asked the Met if they would refuse the march, the Met said they were happy for it to go ahead. You've totally misunderstood what happened, therefore come to an erroneous conclusion. Yes they were. |
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