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Post by sheepy on Nov 14, 2023 22:23:16 GMT
Blimey they held up better than I thought after Braverman tried to cancel democracy.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 14, 2023 22:26:38 GMT
Oh don't be daft - there are 365 days in the year, preventing hate marches on 2 of them is not cancelling democracy.
Silly boy.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 14, 2023 22:28:45 GMT
Oh don't be daft - there are 365 days in the year, preventing hate marches on 2 of them is not cancelling democracy. Silly boy. Trying to cancel it on any day as you should have learnt by now, won't be tolerated just because a few right wing raving loons are convinced it is a good idea.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 14, 2023 22:32:05 GMT
Oh don't be daft - there are 365 days in the year, preventing hate marches on 2 of them is not cancelling democracy. Silly boy. Trying to cancel it on any day as you should of learnt by now, won't be tolerated just because a few right wing raving loons are convinced it is a good idea. oh I'm sure that those on the hate march would not have taken any notice and would just have continued with their calls for violence - thats just the sort of people they are.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 14, 2023 22:35:16 GMT
Trying to cancel it on any day as you should of learnt by now, won't be tolerated just because a few right wing raving loons are convinced it is a good idea. oh I'm sure that those on the hate march would not have taken any notice and would just have continued with their calls for violence - thats just the sort of people they are. By far a very large majority didn't call for violence and trying to create it backfired terribly.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 14, 2023 22:39:53 GMT
oh I'm sure that those on the hate march would not have taken any notice and would just have continued with their calls for violence - thats just the sort of people they are. By far a very large majority didn't call for violence and trying to create it backfired terribly. rubbish - they have spent the last 5 weeks walking down the road chanting calls for violence.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 14, 2023 22:44:32 GMT
By far a very large majority didn't call for violence and trying to create it backfired terribly. rubbish - they have spent the last 5 weeks walking down the road chanting calls for violence. They have very right to peacefully protest and that right is part of everyone's democratic right.
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 14, 2023 22:50:34 GMT
Well she’s certainly stuck the boot in Ouch. If this is true, it demonstrates what a snake many thought Rishi to be.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 14, 2023 23:00:35 GMT
rubbish - they have spent the last 5 weeks walking down the road chanting calls for violence. They have very right to peacefully protest and that right is part of everyone's democratic right. you need permission to protest
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Post by sheepy on Nov 14, 2023 23:04:43 GMT
They have very right to peacefully protest and that right is part of everyone's democratic right. you need permission to protest Which they were given. but then that was something else thought up by a small minority thinking that was the best way of having full control of democracy.
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 14, 2023 23:12:17 GMT
you need permission to protest Which they were given. but then that was something else thought up by a small minority thinking that was the best way of having full control of democracy. The problem is Sheepy, they were respectfully asked not to march on a significant weekend of national commemoration, that's all. However, because they don't hold British values and traditions and in many instances loathe the nation they live in, they were unable to reasonably and respectfully heed that request for one weekend. It just demonstrates how engineered "multiculturalism" and its integration has failed the UK state and sowed divisions.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 14, 2023 23:18:35 GMT
Which they were given. but then that was something else thought up by a small minority thinking that was the best way of having full control of democracy. The problem is Sheepy, they were respectfully asked not to march on a significant weekend of national commemoration, that's all. However, because they don't hold British values and traditions and in many instances loathe the nation they live in, they were unable to reasonably and respectfully heed that request for one weekend. It just demonstrates how engineered "multiculturalism" and its integration has failed the UK state and sowed divisions. They didn't cause any problems for the national commemoration they were massively on the whole respectful, they weren't even near any of it as they kept their word. I call that a victory for democracy and a show of respect.
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 14, 2023 23:23:24 GMT
The problem is Sheepy, they were respectfully asked not to march on a significant weekend of national commemoration, that's all. However, because they don't hold British values and traditions and in many instances loathe the nation they live in, they were unable to reasonably and respectfully heed that request for one weekend. It just demonstrates how engineered "multiculturalism" and its integration has failed the UK state and sowed divisions. They didn't cause any problems for the national commemoration they were massively on the whole respectful, they weren't even near any of it as they kept their word. I call that a victory for democracy and a show of respect. The spike in anti-semitism, and intimidation of Jews in Britain and vandalism of British monuments say otherwise. When your democracy has fundamental links that glorify terrorism and display racial aggressions, I think that shows anything other than respect and that is not what the traditional Left stood for.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 14, 2023 23:30:35 GMT
They didn't cause any problems for the national commemoration they were massively on the whole respectful, they weren't even near any of it as they kept their word. I call that a victory for democracy and a show of respect. The spike in anti-semitism, and intimidation of Jews in Britain and vandalism of British monuments say otherwise. When your democracy has fundamental links that glorify terrorism and display racial aggressions, I think that shows anything other than respect and that is not what the traditional Left stood for. Firstly we are not responsible for how Israel and Hamas conduct themselves or their politics, people marching for peace is not a terrorist activity, the Likud party is as much to blame for the rise in anti-Semitism as is Hamas so no you can invent problems all you like, having broad enough shoulders to admit that the politics from both sides is the cause and will never be the answer is something else.
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 14, 2023 23:35:08 GMT
The spike in anti-semitism, and intimidation of Jews in Britain and vandalism of British monuments say otherwise. When your democracy has fundamental links that glorify terrorism and display racial aggressions, I think that shows anything other than respect and that is not what the traditional Left stood for. Firstly we are not responsible for how Israel and Hamas conduct themselves or their politics, people marching for peace is not a terrorist activity, the Likud party is as much to blame for the rise in anti-Semitism as is Hamas so no you can invent problems all you like, having broad enough shoulders to admit that the politics from both sides is the cause and will never be the answer is something else. Not everyone who marches for peace glorifies terror, but many who glorify terror marched alongside those who march for peace. And in the meantime, you turn the other cheek to the anti-semitism and racism, vandalism, physical aggression ad nauseam displayed by those you march with. The old left at least had a moral compass.
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