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Post by jonksy on Oct 10, 2022 6:16:07 GMT
Labour accused of flip-flopping over allowing workers to keep new income tax cut Labour has been accused of flip-flopping over keeping the new income tax cut Leader Sir Keir Starmer previously said it would be reduced from 20p to 19p Yesterday Jonathan Ashworth said it would reverse Kwasi Kwarteng's measures
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 10, 2022 6:29:12 GMT
As I understand it Labours position is to reverse the Budget with tax cut and then bring in another Budget introducing the tax cut...
Yes.. it didn't make much sense to me the first time I heard it either..
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Post by jonksy on Oct 10, 2022 8:40:20 GMT
As I understand it Labours position is to reverse the Budget with tax cut and then bring in another Budget introducing the tax cut... Yes.. it didn't make much sense to me the first time I heard it either.. It does seem to be counter prtoductive. Considering they portray themselves to be for the working man it doesn't lend very much to their own assumption in my opion. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 10, 2022 12:07:48 GMT
As I understand it Labours position is to reverse the Budget with tax cut and then bring in another Budget introducing the tax cut... Yes.. it didn't make much sense to me the first time I heard it either.. Johnathan Ashworth isn't the Shadow Chancellor so the Daily Misery make much of any misspeak shows how desperate the DM are to deflect from Kwasi's far bigger misfortunes But actually seems the Daily Mail has (again) got it wrong, he talks of reversing the mooted and actual social security cuts |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 13:02:55 GMT
There is a case for keeping the foolosh tax cut, and there is a case for abandoning the tax cut
The case for keeping the tax cut says that putting a few pence into peoples pockets will go down well - but the overpowering and overwhelming case is for the opposite.
When public services have suffered an onslaught of savage cuts ever since the Tories came to power again back in 2010, when the NHS can barely cope any more, when 10% of all posts in both health care and social care are empty. The government is going to even further reduce public services in order to fund tax cuts, which will be of no benefit what so ever to the least well off in society.
Little wonder that polling in the Red Wall seats is breaking polling records, the Tories are heading straight for oblivion, and they deserve it.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 10, 2022 19:05:36 GMT
As I understand it Labours position is to reverse the Budget with tax cut and then bring in another Budget introducing the tax cut... Yes.. it didn't make much sense to me the first time I heard it either.. It does seem to be counter prtoductive. Considering they portray themselves to be for the working man it doesn't lend very much to their own assumption in my opion. IMO Labour stopped listening to the workers years ago |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 11, 2022 13:54:51 GMT
It does seem to be counter prtoductive. Considering they portray themselves to be for the working man it doesn't lend very much to their own assumption in my opion. IMO Labour stopped listening to the workers years ago Yes they are champagne socialists now, they love all the trappings of wealth and titles like Sir Starmer, they don't relate to any members of society now, they don't represent the wealthy, the poor, or the in-betweeners, and the only political ground they can make is when the Tories are performing badly, the worst Labour party in the history of the Labour party. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 11, 2022 14:15:51 GMT
How come then they have overwhelming support at the polls?
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 11, 2022 14:47:54 GMT
How come then they have overwhelming support at the polls? I've just explained, they only do well in the polls when the Tories are doing bad.
They aren't doing well in the polls because of their policies, or their leadership qualities, because they haven't got any of them.
At the next GE they wont be able to get away with vote Labour 'because the Tories have done bad', people will want more than that, we'll want to know their policies, on Brexit, Covid, the Economy, inflation, the cost of living crisis, the War in Ukraine, .... questions so far they have been unable to answer, because they have no policies or plans on any of those vital issues.
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Post by Steve on Oct 11, 2022 14:58:10 GMT
yes they have put forward policies on all of those. Start at labour.org.uk/issues/campaigns/ I'm not saying they're all good policies in fact some are right dumb |
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Post by Toreador on Oct 12, 2022 6:08:41 GMT
How come then they have overwhelming support at the polls? Fickle! |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 12, 2022 6:24:24 GMT
How come then they have overwhelming support at the polls? I've just explained, they only do well in the polls when the Tories are doing bad.
They aren't doing well in the polls because of their policies, or their leadership qualities, because they haven't got any of them.
At the next GE they wont be able to get away with vote Labour 'because the Tories have done bad', people will want more than that, we'll want to know their policies, on Brexit, Covid, the Economy, inflation, the cost of living crisis, the War in Ukraine, .... questions so far they have been unable to answer, because they have no policies or plans on any of those vital issues.
Yep. people constantly want the party nearest the centre ground, when either side veer away they leave the public in the middle looking around for alternatives. Even Boris understood that. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 31, 2023 9:20:30 GMT
Labour accused of flip-flopping over allowing workers to keep new income tax cut Labour has been accused of flip-flopping over keeping the new income tax cut Leader Sir Keir Starmer previously said it would be reduced from 20p to 19p Yesterday Jonathan Ashworth said it would reverse Kwasi Kwarteng's measures
Grown up people will wait for the Labour Manifesto, fools will pick up all the dishonest propaganda and feed into it. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 31, 2023 9:24:13 GMT
It does seem to be counter prtoductive. Considering they portray themselves to be for the working man it doesn't lend very much to their own assumption in my opion. IMO Labour stopped listening to the workers years ago If you mean in terms of a worker revolution, yes I think you are correct. |
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