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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 10, 2023 14:43:23 GMT
Has anybody noticed this? It seems to have been withdrawn from use in the NHS and in most countries in Europe. But it's all been done very quietly. I wonder why.
I think the facts are that the number of serious side effects attributed to this vaccine (including fatal blood clots) have reached a point where it's obviously not safe -it never was safe. Yet, as usual, no one is going to admit the scale of the damage it has done because of the potential costs involved.
This is why people don't trust vaccines. Everyone's prepared to accept a certain amount of risk for the potential benefits, but NOT if the govt try to cover up deaths caused by the vaccine. It needs to be open about this. In fact this should be something that is investigated in the Covid enquiry. Was the vaccine introduced in too much of hurry? Has it done more harm than good?
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 10, 2023 14:45:21 GMT
Dare we mention the vaccine might have caused deaths, anyone who speaks out is cancelled.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2023 14:52:17 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Nov 10, 2023 19:51:53 GMT
This cannot be right I distinctly remember that we were told the vaccines were safe and effective and as you say indicating otherwise was a cancellation crime.
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 11, 2023 8:50:58 GMT
It stinks. How on earth can anyone believe a word they're told about vaccine safety when so many lies are told. I made up my mind a few months ago that I won't have any more of these pointless - and dangerous - Covid vaccines.
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 11, 2023 10:44:20 GMT
It stinks. How on earth can anyone believe a word they're told about vaccine safety when so many lies are told. I made up my mind a few months ago that I won't have any more of these pointless - and dangerous - Covid vaccines. Same as that . I can go with the first vaccine being of more good than harm but for me that swung to being more harm than good with the boosters . Taking AZ off the market confirms what the Germans among others were saying about it . Problems with Pfizer should see that one being the next to be withdrawn
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 13, 2023 1:18:18 GMT
You could so some basic research from trusted sources and find out the actual truth... the other vaccines are more effective... that is why AstraZeneca was dropped. Instead you choice to spout nonsense.
In very rare cases blood clots have happened after the vaccine... but (1) millions of people get blood clots everyday (2) Covid causes blood clots... so how would you ever prove it was the vaccine?
Even if the vaccine did cause the blood clots, it is at far lower rate than caused by Covid... so if you don't want blood clots the vaccine would still be the rational choice over getting Covid.
The information is out there and easy to find, you dumbos just choose to accept the conspiracy version lol.
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 13, 2023 7:50:40 GMT
You could so some basic research from trusted sources and find out the actual truth... the other vaccines are more effective... that is why AstraZeneca was dropped. Instead you choice to spout nonsense. In very rare cases blood clots have happened after the vaccine... but (1) millions of people get blood clots everyday (2) Covid causes blood clots... so how would you ever prove it was the vaccine? Even if the vaccine did cause the blood clots, it is at far lower rate than caused by Covid... so if you don't want blood clots the vaccine would still be the rational choice over getting Covid. The information is out there and easy to find, you dumbos just choose to accept the conspiracy version lol. You're right about one thing - it's virtually impossible to prove that any problem has been caused by the vaccine - and the govt (who have indemnified A-Z for side-effects of their vaccine) take advantage of this to deny claims. Even when drastic side effects occur immediately after vaccination to previously healthy people they deny claims. If the health problems occur months after the vaccination you have no chance. So it's actually quite hard to evaluate how many people have damaged by it. Nevertheless there have been many serious side effects that have been identified as being caused by the vaccine. The fact remains that the vaccine HAS been withdrawn which means that the risk/reward ratio for the vaccine is much more risk weighted than reward rated than we were given to believe by the govt when people were pressured to take the vaccine. In other words the protection it gives is less than they said and the risks are higher. We were bounced into taking a dangerous product by a govt sponsored fear campaign. And another fact is that the "excess death" rate in the UK is still very much higher than it was before the Covid pandemic - which is not accounted for by deaths from Covid itself. No one has yet worked out why, but something has changed. Some have talked about Long Covid being a possibility, but no one knows. It also could be long term effects of the vaccines that were fast tracked into use without ANY long term testing. You're the dumbo, mate. You've swallowed the govt bollocks hook, line and sinker.
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