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Post by Vinny on Nov 7, 2023 9:18:57 GMT
Just watched some footage from Edinburgh of running battles between feral thugs the majority of whom appeared to be kids, and police who needed plexiglass shields to protect themselves from a barrage of fireworks. This is mad, the Home Sec should instruct the police to get it sorted or get the troops on the streets and let them deal with it. Thanks to feral minorities this country is turning into 1970's Northern Ireland. It does beg the question, what the fuck are they taught in Scottish schools and isn't it time their parents were once again allowed to smack them? End devolution, abolish the Scottish anti discipline law. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 16:02:50 GMT
They're beating up the veterans up there: Poppy seller veteran, 78, is 'punched by pro-Palestine protesters' in Edinburgh Waverley station... as leaders of the Gaza march set for Armistice Day refuse a police appeal to cancelI just started a thread about this, I hate stealing other peoples threads and would normally delete. However, although you mentioned it first you didn't use it as an OP or thread starter. So I wont be deleting. I'm pleased someone else noticed this story. I don't bother to create threads on this forum and wouldn't deprive anyone else from starting them. I just thought the story related to what's going on in the OP. |
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Post by Ripley on Nov 7, 2023 20:49:36 GMT
Just watched some footage from Edinburgh of running battles between feral thugs the majority of whom appeared to be kids, and police who needed plexiglass shields to protect themselves from a barrage of fireworks. This is mad, the Home Sec should instruct the police to get it sorted or get the troops on the streets and let them deal with it. Thanks to feral minorities this country is turning into 1970's Northern Ireland. It does beg the question, what the fuck are they taught in Scottish schools and isn't it time their parents were once again allowed to smack them?End devolution, abolish the Scottish anti discipline law. When you smack a child, you are teaching him that violence solves problems. That's the recipe for turning children into bullies and thugs, and may be the reason these kids are so out of control. There are better, more productive ways of disciplining children. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 7, 2023 22:13:26 GMT
No, when you smack a child you teach him that there are consequences for shit behaviour.
What the SNP have done is teach the little shits that they can do whatever the fuck they like, to anyone they like, with no consequences from anyone.
Bullying rates in Scotland 30.8%.
Bullying rates in England 19%.
Ignore what leftie lunatics say, smacking WORKS.
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Post by Ripley on Nov 7, 2023 22:21:31 GMT
No, when you smack a child you teach him that there are consequences for shit behaviour. What the SNP have done is teach the little shits that they can do whatever the fuck they like, to anyone they like, with no consequences from anyone. Bullying rates in Scotland 30.8%. Bullying rates in England 19%. Ignore what leftie lunatics say, smacking WORKS. Parents have much earlier access to children than political parties, and these lessons begin at home. There should absolutely be consequences for bad behaviour, but violence only begets violence. There are better ways of steering kids towards productive adulthood. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 7, 2023 22:31:32 GMT
Political parties BANNED parents from smacking their children.
Use your brain.
Thugs and bullies learn from a very early age they can do anything they like, to anyone and not even their parents can do anything to stop them.
It's a recipe for disaster and the SNP are mad.
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Post by Ripley on Nov 7, 2023 23:18:45 GMT
Political parties BANNED parents from smacking their children. Use your brain. Thugs and bullies learn from a very early age they can do anything they like, to anyone and not even their parents can do anything to stop them. It's a recipe for disaster and the SNP are mad. I am all for parental control, but there's quite a short window of opportunity for that before children go to school, where they can be influenced by all sorts of people. I am opposed to violence against children, who can't defend themselves from adults. That includes smacking, which only teaches children to smack other children. And then you wonder why some of them grow up to be thugs and bullies. Smacking is, in any case, a very lazy approach to discipline. It takes more time and effort to teach accountability, responsibility, respect and honesty. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 7, 2023 23:19:42 GMT
With the greatest of respect, you're wrong.
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Post by Ripley on Nov 7, 2023 23:25:14 GMT
With the greatest of respect, you're wrong. Well at least you can disagree agreeably, (something of a rarity around here), so hat's off to you for that!  |
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Post by thomas on Nov 8, 2023 7:08:30 GMT
They're beating up the veterans up there: Poppy seller veteran, 78, is 'punched by pro-Palestine protesters' in Edinburgh Waverley station... as leaders of the Gaza march set for Armistice Day refuse a police appeal to cancel
ive read this story numerous times and im still not seeing any evidence that the old guy selling poppies was punched and kicked deliberately , or any evidence showing him trying to escape from a hostile crowd.
The article says there is social media evidence. Im still not aware of any.
Far be it from me to question the validity of the daily mail , that organ of truth and light , but do you think there is a slight chance the story is being made up?
The old boy says apparently his foot was stood on and he was elbowed in the back .Could this have been accidental?
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Post by thomas on Nov 8, 2023 7:11:41 GMT
It does beg the question, what the fuck are they taught in Scottish schools and isn't it time their parents were once again allowed to smack them?End devolution, abolish the Scottish anti discipline law. When you smack a child, you are teaching him that violence solves problems. That's the recipe for turning children into bullies and thugs, and may be the reason these kids are so out of control. There are better, more productive ways of disciplining children. Im not too sure why its the fault of teachers in school , and what they are teaching kids , is somehow in vinnys opinion responsible for anti social behaviour?
Hasnt society , government , poverty , surroundings and most importanly parents also got a large responsibility ,as well as installing respect and behavioural norms in children and young teenagers?
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Post by thomas on Nov 8, 2023 7:14:19 GMT
No, when you smack a child you teach him that there are consequences for shit behaviour. What the SNP have done is teach the little shits that they can do whatever the fuck they like, to anyone they like, with no consequences from anyone. Bullying rates in Scotland 30.8%. Bullying rates in England 19%. Ignore what leftie lunatics say, smacking WORKS. eh?
England one of worst countries for bullying among school pupils, global survey suggests
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Post by thomas on Nov 8, 2023 7:19:24 GMT
I just started a thread about this, I hate stealing other peoples threads and would normally delete. However, although you mentioned it first you didn't use it as an OP or thread starter. So I wont be deleting. I'm pleased someone else noticed this story. I just thought the story related to what's going on in the OP. In what way?
The op is about anti social behaviour in niddrie among kids , your link is about an alleged incident taking place between a poppy seller and palestinian protestors.
so apart from both stories taking place in the edinburgh area , whats the relation?
Surely the comparable link would be the manchester story of yobs behaving badly on bonfire night ?
Or did you just take an opportunity to jump in and shout scotland bad?
Anyway , i will await the social media evidence , as i cant find any regarding the poppy story. over to you....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 10:29:02 GMT
Just watched some footage from Edinburgh of running battles between feral thugs the majority of whom appeared to be kids, and police who needed plexiglass shields to protect themselves from a barrage of fireworks. This is mad, the Home Sec should instruct the police to get it sorted or get the troops on the streets and let them deal with it. Thanks to feral minorities this country is turning into 1970's Northern Ireland. It does beg the question, what the fuck are they taught in Scottish schools and isn't it time their parents were once again allowed to smack them? End devolution, abolish the Scottish anti discipline law. If the Scottish prisons were full of only un-smacked children you might have a point. I'm not averse to smacking a child when all else fails, but I think it's irrelevant to the behaviour of the people on the streets. The law on smacking in England and Wales seems pretty well balanced. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 8, 2023 10:34:38 GMT
In England, yes, in Wales, it's banned.
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