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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 10, 2023 8:25:26 GMT
Evidence requested. Evidence provided.
It's not my fault if you don't like the truth.
Names are not evidence, facts are evidence. They're links, Wonky. You click on them and the article containing the facts opens in another window. That's how the internet works. Perhaps you could get a grown up to show you.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 10, 2023 8:32:18 GMT
See what I mean, insults in place of an argument. Thanks for the help. I am not bothered, the point being an ex copper told us we get the police force we deserve... And you have: A force that's afraid to police for fear of being accused of being racist/misogynist/Islamophobic/homophobic etc. etc. Enjoy. You chose it.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 10, 2023 8:32:51 GMT
Evidence requested. Evidence provided.
It's not my fault if you don't like the truth.
Names are not evidence, facts are evidence. You keep saying UK, I keep saying London. Is there a reason for that? Only the report we are discussing is on the MET.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2023 8:34:48 GMT
I am not bothered, the point being an ex copper told us we get the police force we deserve... And you have: A force that's afraid to police for fear of being accused of being racist/misogynist/Islamophobic/homophobic etc. etc. Enjoy. You chose it. No my friend you are trying to manipulate democracy, which we won't be putting up with, as you are no longer a part of said force we thank you for your advice.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 10, 2023 8:35:16 GMT
I am not bothered, the point being an ex copper told us we get the police force we deserve... And you have: A force that's afraid to police for fear of being accused of being racist/misogynist/Islamophobic/homophobic etc. etc. Enjoy. You chose it. Yes I think unfettered is far better. Worked really well for the SS. No balance required really.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 10, 2023 8:36:46 GMT
No I don't. You made that up.
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Post by Orac on Nov 10, 2023 8:38:45 GMT
I am not bothered, the point being an ex copper told us we get the police force we deserve... And you have: A force that's afraid to police for fear of being accused of being racist/misogynist/Islamophobic/homophobic etc. etc. Enjoy. You chose it. If the first priority is not be seen as racist, misogynistic or transphobic, it's going to fail and become politically manipulated. This is the sort of thing that happens when you let stupid and dishonest people take the helm
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 10, 2023 8:41:18 GMT
And you have: A force that's afraid to police for fear of being accused of being racist/misogynist/Islamophobic/homophobic etc. etc. Enjoy. You chose it. No my friend you are trying to manipulate democracy, which we won't be putting up with, as you are no longer a part of said force we thank you for your advice. Who's "We"? You have the policing you deserve. You chose it.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2023 8:44:02 GMT
No my friend you are trying to manipulate democracy, which we won't be putting up with, as you are no longer a part of said force we thank you for your advice. Who's "We"? You have the policing you deserve. You chose it. We did this time, thanks to you pointing out it was not chosen but politically motivated by one side or another. Which has of course caused much foot stamping in political circles.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 10, 2023 8:47:33 GMT
No my friend you are trying to manipulate democracy, which we won't be putting up with, as you are no longer a part of said force we thank you for your advice. Who's "We"? You have the policing you deserve. You chose it. Remind me again who has been in power for the last 13 years.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 10, 2023 9:02:06 GMT
And the price of fish?
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Post by sandypine on Nov 10, 2023 9:02:26 GMT
Who's "We"? You have the policing you deserve. You chose it. Remind me again who has been in power for the last 13 years. The problems stem from 1997, the fact the Tories and others have continued this sorry farce, bolstered by an MSN coopeted to the task is a tragedy. Policing of situations is supposed to be even handed. A multitude of people thought the marches are both divisive, racist and intolerant and that easily passes the threshold recommended by McPherson of when to act. We had one complaint as regards the BNP and two people were sent to court for saying things far less abusive and far less intimidating. EDL marches were routed to car parks and kettled or banned outright on the grounds they were intimidating and disruptive. I remember the cries from the left to have them banned outright. Now here we are with anti Jewish protests immersed in the protests and intimidation and thuggery being to the fore and the police are tending to ignore it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2023 9:02:52 GMT
And you have: A force that's afraid to police for fear of being accused of being racist/misogynist/Islamophobic/homophobic etc. etc. Enjoy. You chose it. If the first priority is not be seen as racist, misogynistic or transphobic, it's going to fail and become politically manipulated. This is the sort of thing that happens when you let stupid and dishonest people take the helm I think Braverman is saying all of the right things which sane people can relate to. I'm suspicious, because she's still in a position of power when others would be driven out, but at the same time I actually like her. She certainly exposes the irrational and fanatical lunacy from the Left.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2023 9:11:26 GMT
If the first priority is not be seen as racist, misogynistic or transphobic, it's going to fail and become politically manipulated. This is the sort of thing that happens when you let stupid and dishonest people take the helm I think Braverman is saying all of the right things which sane people can relate to. I'm suspicious, because she's still in a position of power when others would be driven out, but at the same time I actually like her. She certainly exposes the irrational and fanatical lunacy from the Left. But then I don't believe for a minute, your every problem in life stems from the Left of politics, I think you just like to see it that way, because basically you have no control over them. I don't see a problem with them peacefully demonstrating over very obvious wrongs created somewhere in the halls of power, they did it under Covid and have been proven right. They have also been proven wrong over unfettered illegal immigration. So you don't win them all.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2023 9:18:16 GMT
I might go as far as say, over the last 13 years the Westminster party between them have created a lot more problems at home and abroad than they have ever fixed.
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