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Post by patman post on Oct 31, 2023 21:12:17 GMT
Company insolvencies are due to oil, fuel and electricity costs as well as taxes. Nothing to do with Brexit. Try running one. The pandemic and the war in Ukraine have far reaching consequences. The USA has the same problem, it was never in the EU. Germany has the same problem and recession has been an additional problem. And a lot of companies did go under when we were in the EU, although the ones who relocated to the continent had the same effect on their staff. The high pound was a factor. Great sidesteps and excuses — but insolvencies are up now we’re out. That’s going to impact employment and cost of living. Germany is in the EU, we’re out. How is the Germany economy affecting us? So what’s you’re solution now we’ve got the world to trade with…? |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 31, 2023 21:56:06 GMT
Nothing to do with Brexit. Zombie companies going insolvent is due to higher interest rates. Nice try at pinning that on Brexit. Still its not all bad, you can still get your tablecloth from Germany if you have a little patience. |
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Post by patman post on Oct 31, 2023 23:17:28 GMT
Why would I need a Tischdecke…?
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Post by Vinny on Nov 1, 2023 0:37:50 GMT
Germany has been in actual recession. Their economy has performed extremely badly in recent months.
"But but but Brexit" is all remoaners can say whilst other countries still in the EU have been through the mill.
Your arguments, your political position, is extremely simplistic, it ignores major global and geopolitical events.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 1, 2023 10:53:17 GMT
The EU has no pressing need for an FTA with Australia. It is self-sufficient in almost everything that Australia can provide; those few products and commodities that it isn't are available much closer to home.
On the other hand Australians, like the UK, have an insatiable appetite for products that only the EU can provide, such as desirable motor-cars, fashion, high-value capital goods, higher-end building systems and supplies, and higher-end non-toxic food products.
A visit to Australia and a close look at what Australians buy and where they originate from will soon prove this to be correct.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 1, 2023 11:49:08 GMT
The EU has no pressing need for an FTA with Australia. It is self-sufficient in almost everything that Australia can provide; those few products and commodities that it isn't are available much closer to home. On the other hand Australians, like the UK, have an insatiable appetite for products that only the EU can provide, such as desirable motor-cars, fashion, high-value capital goods, higher-end building systems and supplies, and higher-end non-toxic food products.
A visit to Australia and a close look at what Australians buy and where they originate from will soon prove this to be correct. If that were the case Germany and the Eurozone would not be in recession. The long term viability of German car production is looking very shaky as consumers turn their backs on them for cheaper cars from China. Looking at car sales in Australia it is dominated by Japan and China - Volkswagen (who actually make a lot of their cars in China) only come in in 10th place. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 1, 2023 12:13:05 GMT
The Eurozone is not in recession; Germany is but expects to emerge from it in 1Q24. The economic outlook for 2024 and beyond for the whole Eurozone is quite optimistic as recent external shocks recede into the distance.
As for the Australian car market, two points. First, vehicles imported from the EU fall into the high-value, premium sector as they do in the US and the UK. EU manufacturers dominate the sector in all three. The mass market, as in the UK, is now dominated by Asian producers since the demise of domestic manufacturers. Second, VW does not not export from China, its current production there does not meet current European emissions standards and there are persistent quality and reliability issues as with all Chinese-made vehicles. VW's three joint ventures remain focused on addressing the Chinese market.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 1, 2023 12:17:11 GMT
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 1, 2023 12:28:18 GMT
Most Europeans are probably glad you're out too.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 1, 2023 12:34:34 GMT
As time goes on and our success outside the EU becomes more apparent more countries may wish to follow our example.
It's important they get to vote.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 1, 2023 12:39:45 GMT
There seems to be little sign of either so far, even seven and a half years in. When should we expect to start seeing the signs of success you talk about?
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Post by Vinny on Nov 1, 2023 13:43:15 GMT
Except the economic data which shows we're doing far better than we were in 2015.
Exports are well above inflation compared to 2015.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 1, 2023 13:47:53 GMT
Whose exports aren't doing better than they were in 2015?
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Post by Vinny on Nov 1, 2023 13:54:34 GMT
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 1, 2023 14:01:55 GMT
That doesn't provide a comparison with 2015, the chart only starts in 2019.
As far the UK, here's the bigger picture wrt its trade in goods with the EU:
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