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Post by sandypine on Oct 25, 2023 13:47:43 GMT
notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/10/24/what-caused-severe-floods-in-the-1950s-sky-news/Sky think that climate change is making floods worse. Maybe they might like to explain why flooding was so bad in the 1950s: A trawl through the Met Office monthly weather reports of the time finds these references to severe floods: Feb 1950 – Considerable flooding in some districts. Nov 1951 – Severe flooding in many parts of the country Aug 1952 – Lynmouth floods Nov 1952 – Serious flooding in Sussex Jan 1953 – The Great North Sea floods May 1953 – Severe storms brought heavy rain and floods, particularly in West Scotland causing “much damage” June 1953 – Severe thunderstorms brought “exceptionally heavy rain” causing “severe flooding and considerable damage” July 1953 –Widespread thunderstorms seriously affected crops in West Midlands and Central Scotland, with local damage due to lightning and floods, with some loss of life. Aug 1954 – Considerable flooding in some areas Oct 1954 – Severe flooding in NW England, N Wales and S Scotland Nov 1954 – Serious floods in many parts of the country March 1955- Serious floods in the Midlands July 1955 – Record daily rainfall in Dorset led to severe flooding there. (279mm at Martinstown is still the highest daily total for any station in the UK) Aug 1956 – Widespread flooding Oct 1957 – Floods in Wales and NW England, with 12.71 inch of rain recorded at Blaenau Ffestiniog in a four-day spell. Nov 1957 – Torrential rain led to floods in many areas, particularly the Midlands Sep 1958 – Widespread flooding in Wales These are just the major flood events. There would be many more minor ones which never got a mention in the monthly summaries.
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Post by borchester on Oct 25, 2023 13:59:35 GMT
notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/10/24/what-caused-severe-floods-in-the-1950s-sky-news/Sky think that climate change is making floods worse. Maybe they might like to explain why flooding was so bad in the 1950s: A trawl through the Met Office monthly weather reports of the time finds these references to severe floods: Feb 1950 – Considerable flooding in some districts. Nov 1951 – Severe flooding in many parts of the country Aug 1952 – Lynmouth floods Nov 1952 – Serious flooding in Sussex Jan 1953 – The Great North Sea floods May 1953 – Severe storms brought heavy rain and floods, particularly in West Scotland causing “much damage” June 1953 – Severe thunderstorms brought “exceptionally heavy rain” causing “severe flooding and considerable damage” July 1953 –Widespread thunderstorms seriously affected crops in West Midlands and Central Scotland, with local damage due to lightning and floods, with some loss of life. Aug 1954 – Considerable flooding in some areas Oct 1954 – Severe flooding in NW England, N Wales and S Scotland Nov 1954 – Serious floods in many parts of the country March 1955- Serious floods in the Midlands July 1955 – Record daily rainfall in Dorset led to severe flooding there. (279mm at Martinstown is still the highest daily total for any station in the UK) Aug 1956 – Widespread flooding Oct 1957 – Floods in Wales and NW England, with 12.71 inch of rain recorded at Blaenau Ffestiniog in a four-day spell. Nov 1957 – Torrential rain led to floods in many areas, particularly the Midlands Sep 1958 – Widespread flooding in Wales These are just the major flood events. There would be many more minor ones which never got a mention in the monthly summaries. After 1951 the Conservatives were in power for the rest of the 1950s.
It is pretty obvious that the flooding was caused by Tory misrule.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2023 14:51:50 GMT
Why is snow slowly disappearing from the British climate ?
It seemed to begin in the 1960s when, here close to the Yorkshire Moors we never had a Winter without snow, it became noticeable in the 1970s, and most Winters now we never see snow at sea level.
Why have frosts almost disappeared
Come late October in the 1960s and 1970s, we had a frost almost every night, but it has gradually become more rare. Most nights now in Winter there is no frost.
This has become more apparent over a 50 year period - more rain, more floods, higher temperatures, less snow and frosts. The reasons are not cyclic, there is a reason for it, and something like 98 to 99 percent of scientists tell us that the changes are as a result of human activity, and I believe 99% of the scientific world.
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Post by sandypine on Oct 25, 2023 15:27:55 GMT
Why is snow slowly disappearing from the British climate ? It seemed to begin in the 1960s when, here close to the Yorkshire Moors we never had a Winter without snow, it became noticeable in the 1970s, and most Winters now we never see snow at sea level. Why have frosts almost disappeared Come late October in the 1960s and 1970s, we had a frost almost every night, but it has gradually become more rare. Most nights now in Winter there is no frost. This has become more apparent over a 50 year period - more rain, more floods, higher temperatures, less snow and frosts. The reasons are not cyclic, there is a reason for it, and something like 98 to 99 percent of scientists tell us that the changes are as a result of human activity, and I believe 99% of the scientific world. I lived in Hampshire for over 20 years and we had severe snowfalls in 1978-79, 1980, 1983, 1988, 1990. We had many frosts as my radiator froze at -10 in 88, I cycled to work for several years and had a Honda step through 70cc and I can assure you the winters were long, cold, frosty and as bad as most I had growing up in central Scotland. I have to say I am tired of the 99% that has been refuted so often with links and details it has become more than wearisome.
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Post by bancroft on Oct 25, 2023 16:12:24 GMT
Why is snow slowly disappearing from the British climate ? It seemed to begin in the 1960s when, here close to the Yorkshire Moors we never had a Winter without snow, it became noticeable in the 1970s, and most Winters now we never see snow at sea level. Why have frosts almost disappeared Come late October in the 1960s and 1970s, we had a frost almost every night, but it has gradually become more rare. Most nights now in Winter there is no frost. This has become more apparent over a 50 year period - more rain, more floods, higher temperatures, less snow and frosts. The reasons are not cyclic, there is a reason for it, and something like 98 to 99 percent of scientists tell us that the changes are as a result of human activity, and I believe 99% of the scientific world. You need to consider where you live, if more are houses being built needing more hot water and heating it heats up the environment. Population expansion globally is an issue as is continued cutting down of rain forests. More plane journeys. I'm just happy we have not had hose pipe bans for a few years.
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Post by Dogburger on Oct 25, 2023 16:17:39 GMT
Why is snow slowly disappearing from the British climate ? It seemed to begin in the 1960s when, here close to the Yorkshire Moors we never had a Winter without snow, it became noticeable in the 1970s, and most Winters now we never see snow at sea level. Why have frosts almost disappeared Come late October in the 1960s and 1970s, we had a frost almost every night, but it has gradually become more rare. Most nights now in Winter there is no frost. This has become more apparent over a 50 year period - more rain, more floods, higher temperatures, less snow and frosts. The reasons are not cyclic, there is a reason for it, and something like 98 to 99 percent of scientists tell us that the changes are as a result of human activity, and I believe 99% of the scientific world. Why have they had record snowfalls in parts of North America ? Weather patterns change ,snow as we know is freezing rain, if its not raining it cant turn to snow and the UK is pretty borderline anyway having a temperate climate . It doesn't take that much of a rise in temperature to see what little snow we do get turn to rain . Frosts are due to night temperatures an increase in cloud cover would keep temperatures up enough making average temperatures higher .Thats not higher temperatures thats higher average temperatures ,very important . Get a clear night in winter and you will get your frost . So yes its the weather . Even taking the view of 99% of climate scientists (note not scientists in general) who tell us its all man made even they must admit that things can only get better as we wont have the heating on all day and night because its almost tropical . Either that or it will continue to warm up which will prove that they are wrong and its not us ,its them ! Or the weather
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 25, 2023 17:32:57 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 26, 2023 19:42:20 GMT
Approximately eight years ago there was a storm surge that caused the river Usk’s tidal range to flood. The flood plain 100 yards from JoG Towers did its job, and nothing came remotely near us. On the far side of the river the waters rose covering the golf course and the field next to the housing estate that has absolutely covered the virgin fields that were a sheep and welsh black lowland beef cattle farm when we first came to this part of Newport in 1983
The newspapers had a full on field day blaming everything from chernobyl fallout to overpopulation
Eventually i’d had quite enough.
In the oxo tin are numerous contact prints taken from the 120 (??) roll films Moira’s grandparents took with their box brownie. Several are from the great flood of 1932
Oh hang on. In 1930 Moira’s grandparents moved into a brand new house 650 yards towards the M4 from JoG Towers. The photos they took show the exact same area of the Usk river bank ranted over by the local rag. And behold, on our side of the river, where the ‘flood plain’ grasslands flooded, the farmland then being used to graze sheep had flooded to the very same point, and the sheep were all moved to the upper field on which JoG Towers and thirty six other homes now stand.
On the other side of the river the low riverside pastures used in the thirties to graze sheep, just as they were when we moved here fifty years later, were flooded to the exact same point, right to the same tree stumps, and not an inch further. The upland fields green snd used to graze welsh blacks right until the area was bulldozed to make ‘executive’ housing in the nineties, was dry as a bone then and now.
And the golf course ? In 1930 it was a horse racing track. I’m no expert, but the race track railings were about a foot or two out of the floodwater, and the golf course flags in the holes seemed immersed to the same degree…..
My email to the shitty rag using the storm surge to predict armageddon showing them their predictions are no worse than eighty years ago earned me five minutes of fame and earned the paper a whole half page of righteous derision.
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