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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 24, 2023 18:16:07 GMT
Gérald Darmanin, the interior minister, said France would deport foreigners deemed a threat without waiting for the European Court of Human Rights to hear their appeals. If their removal was judged to have violated the European Convention on Human Rights, Paris would pay a fine but not allow them back - link Interesting stuff, I wonder if other member states will follow the French lead and more importantly, will the UK.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 24, 2023 21:30:59 GMT
No chance our spineless twats will do anything
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 24, 2023 21:39:34 GMT
We self flagellate even at the thought of breaking conventions of human rights, that stick was used to beat Brexit Britain, but the French on the other hand...
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 24, 2023 23:03:06 GMT
It was mentioned earlier on GB News that even though the pro EU French government have lost patience with EU rules, the 'Independent' UK government will as ever meekly do as they're told.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2023 7:55:27 GMT
It was mentioned earlier on GB News that even though the pro EU French government have lost patience with EU rules, the 'Independent' UK government will as ever meekly do as they're told. I'm not sure how many times this has to be said. The European Convention on Human Rights is an international treaty launched by the Council of Europe in 1950 to help protect people's human rights and fundamental freedoms. The Council of Europe is not part of the European Union.
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 27, 2023 7:48:55 GMT
It was mentioned earlier on GB News that even though the pro EU French government have lost patience with EU rules, the 'Independent' UK government will as ever meekly do as they're told. I'm not sure how many times this has to be said. The European Convention on Human Rights is an international treaty launched by the Council of Europe in 1950 to help protect people's human rights and fundamental freedoms. The Council of Europe is not part of the European Union.Another factor is that the international treaty of 1950 has since been changed very significantly by "case law". Whenever a Strasbourg court makes a judgement this is effectively incorporated into the treaty - and some of their judgements are pretty perverse. Unfortunately our own govt will never be willing to do what the French are, quite rightly, doing - for the simple reason that probably a majority of our govt actually agree with the Strasbourg rulings. They just don't want us to be able to deport illegal immigrants because, IMO, they're intent on destroying this country.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 27, 2023 11:21:13 GMT
It was mentioned earlier on GB News that even though the pro EU French government have lost patience with EU rules, the 'Independent' UK government will as ever meekly do as they're told. I'm not sure how many times this has to be said. The European Convention on Human Rights is an international treaty launched by the Council of Europe in 1950 to help protect people's human rights and fundamental freedoms. The Council of Europe is not part of the European Union. Quite so, but the point is moot when membership of one requires membership of the other.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2023 13:23:01 GMT
It was mentioned earlier on GB News that even though the pro EU French government have lost patience with EU rules, the 'Independent' UK government will as ever meekly do as they're told. I'm not sure how many times this has to be said. The European Convention on Human Rights is an international treaty launched by the Council of Europe in 1950 to help protect people's human rights and fundamental freedoms. The Council of Europe is not part of the European Union. I'm not sure how many times this has to be said - "Read the bloody link".
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Post by bancroft on Oct 27, 2023 16:16:20 GMT
Gérald Darmanin, the interior minister, said France would deport foreigners deemed a threat without waiting for the European Court of Human Rights to hear their appeals. If their removal was judged to have violated the European Convention on Human Rights, Paris would pay a fine but not allow them back - link Interesting stuff, I wonder if other member states will follow the French lead and more importantly, will the UK. Let's watch how many go and how many fines they get?
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 28, 2023 0:03:49 GMT
Let's watch how many go and how many fines they get? Macron, and the EU for that matter, know how unpopular and contentious the immigration issue is in France. It's not widely reported and that's no accident. Immigration is a bigger issue in France than it is in this country, and it's a big issue in this country. But apart from big incidents it's largely kept under wraps.
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