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Oct 19, 2023 7:34:30 GMT
Post by steppenwolf on Oct 19, 2023 7:34:30 GMT
I was listening to PM yesterday (the BBCs news program at 5pm with Evan Davies), which is something I rarely do. He was talking to Lord Dubs (some leftie wanker who pops up every now and then to say we should let in more refugees etc) and Evan Davies brought up the unstable state that the world is now in - with Russia's war with Ukraine and Israel at war with Gaza - and whether it had any parallels with the 1930's. But I was a bit surprised that the instabilities (which are obvious) were blamed on the far Right. Both of them began wittering on about huge rise of the far Right across Europe and the increase in far Right terrorism in the UK. It's incredible how blinkered the BBC and the Left are about what's going on around them.
As it happens I think there are many parallels with the 1930's but they do NOT involve the far Right. There are now two causes of the current instability IMO. Firstly there's the almost permanent problems in the Middle East. This is the most close parallel with the 1930s where Hitler was intent on eliminating the Jews and creating the Third Reich - and where the muslims are also intent on wiping Israel off the map and setting up a global caliphate by displacing muslims all over the West. This could well become a conflagration across the Middle East.
And then there are the EU's aspirations to expand its empire by getting Ukraine to be a member. The EU's "cosying up" to Ukraine was a deliberate provocation of Russia and it had the inevitable result of precipitating a war. It has caused dangerous alliances between Russia and Iran (and even China) against the West. So there are all the ingredients of World War Three. All thanks to the muslims and the EU.
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Oct 19, 2023 9:41:41 GMT
Post by Orac on Oct 19, 2023 9:41:41 GMT
My view is that sticking it hard to Putin (Russia) in order to put them in a cleft stick, has stranded us and limited our options. It was daft and self defeating.
The logical thing to do would be for us to co-operate for the confrontations which are inevitable (ie made of religion and ideology) - the caliphate and China.
The Russian confrontation is made of nothing - it's just a border dispute.
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Oct 19, 2023 12:39:56 GMT
Post by steppenwolf on Oct 19, 2023 12:39:56 GMT
Yes. The Russia problem was completely predictable and the EU should have seen it coming years ago and solved it diplomatically.
But the problem with the muslims has been around for even longer and NOBODY wants to even talk about it. The muslims are the "New Nazis" and all our politicians are appeasing them. It won't do any good.
Unlike Hitler they're not going to declare war and invade - that won't work. They're just displacing their muslim populations to the West and letting them destroy our culture and take over powerful roles. It won't take long to destroy the cultures of the West.
I still find it hard to believe that Britain fought WWII at great cost to destroy Nazism - but we are just quietly accepting an even more virulent form of hatred in the form of a muslim occupation. These people don't just hate the Jews - they hate everybody who's not muslim.
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Oct 19, 2023 12:57:15 GMT
Post by piglet on Oct 19, 2023 12:57:15 GMT
If the west was to limit the expansion of the EU, then the EU would be doing Russias job for it, ie, subjugating a population that would want something else, not dictatorship.
That cant be done, and it would be wrong to do it, because its anti democratic, that we are all free to choose. If the Ukraine, Moldova etc want to be part of the EU then no one can say they cant, its a natural evolution, an evolution that Russia cant get its head around, and to prevent such is criminal, its like trying to hold a pint of water with your hands.
Everyone wants a better life, Russia wont provide that. As for right and left, the extremists on both sides are the same people, the left though outnumber the right 10 to 1 if not much greater. Its time to identify the wests enemies and do something about it, ignoring overt warfare against us is not working.
Cut off money, arm sales, tech, medicine, food, tourism, show them whos boss, and if their population suffers not care, because we cant care for everyone, indeed we should be looking after ourselves first.
This will energise the limp hopeless population in such countries to get off their ass es and do something, if their children are hungry, aunt flo needs medicine, the water is dirty.
Paradoxically, being good is a canker, wrong headed, evil. We have the power, use it, bring Putin, Chi, jong un Hamas, whoever down, now, have our big guns pointed at them and tell them so, if they kick up, they are dead.
These people rely on the west, its time to get the arm up the back, near to a fracture if you ask me. If they dont respond, and their societies crash, the west wins both ways, then progress can be made.
To kill a cancer, you need radiation, turn it on, highest setting. A little reminder, being nice does not work, evil cannot be spoken too and reasoned with, look at Hamas, ISIS, Labour, socialists of all descriptions, Lineker, Corbyn, Putin........im going to be here all day. We need a bas tard in charge, to do good, without that we are all lost.
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Oct 19, 2023 13:12:24 GMT
Post by Orac on Oct 19, 2023 13:12:24 GMT
By the time the Russians invaded, the mountain of horse-shit was touching the clouds and locked us diplomatically into a losing stance in a fight over a corrupt, criminally run tip that didn't touch on our actual interests.
Our position is now not particularly enviable - our treasure hemorrhages and the position of our financial system is (predictably) undercut by our use of it as a weapon. We are facing the possibility of some kind of three front conflagration and the US's armed services are wrestling with woke issues as priorities.
Sadly, we seem to be run by incompetents who can't tell the difference between reality and their feelings. We will see how it goes.
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Post by bancroft on Oct 19, 2023 13:28:57 GMT
Yes. The Russia problem was completely predictable and the EU should have seen it coming years ago and solved it diplomatically. But the problem with the muslims has been around for even longer and NOBODY wants to even talk about it. The muslims are the "New Nazis" and all our politicians are appeasing them. It won't do any good. Unlike Hitler they're not going to declare war and invade - that won't work. They're just displacing their muslim populations to the West and letting them destroy our culture and take over powerful roles. It won't take long to destroy the cultures of the West. I still find it hard to believe that Britain fought WWII at great cost to destroy Nazism - but we are just quietly accepting an even more virulent form of hatred in the form of a Muslim occupation. These people don't just hate the Jews - they hate everybody who's not muslim. With the exception of Israel and Palestine I don't recall many problems with Islam in the UK before 9/11. Unfortunately the West decided to take out despotic leaders who were hostile to Israel and then leave them to it. Remember nothing done to Egypt crushing its Arab Spring or those on the Arabian peninsular yet they were not hostile to Israel. Israel's ongoing conflict with Palestinian militias have created more refugees abroad. |
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Oct 20, 2023 7:31:20 GMT
Post by steppenwolf on Oct 20, 2023 7:31:20 GMT
The number of muslims in the UK is roughly doubling every 10 years and the lesson of history is that the more of them there are the more trouble they cause. The problem with what's called "grooming gangs" has been going on for many decades. If you're suggesting that our involvement in Afghanistan was a cause of terrorism in the UK I don't think so. Most islamic terrorists are just attacking the Kuffar. And they also get Islamic terror attacks in Australia and New Zealand which have little involvement with muslim countries.
But my main point is that the muslims are the new Nazis. They're every bit as dangerous as Hitler was because they share many of his views.
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Oct 20, 2023 7:49:59 GMT
Post by sheepy on Oct 20, 2023 7:49:59 GMT
The number of muslims in the UK is roughly doubling every 10 years and the lesson of history is that the more of them there are the more trouble they cause. The problem with what's called "grooming gangs" has been going on for many decades. If you're suggesting that our involvement in Afghanistan was a cause of terrorism in the UK I don't think so. Most islamic terrorists are just attacking the Kuffar. And they also get Islamic terror attacks in Australia and New Zealand which have little involvement with muslim countries. But my main point is that the muslims are the new Nazis. They're every bit as dangerous as Hitler was because they share many of his views. Its a huge business, with untold billions pumped into it, which Joe is just asking for more Billions to create more terrorism, who takes the backlash? oh that will be the purely innocent just going about enjoying themselves as a rule. |
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Oct 20, 2023 8:08:10 GMT
Post by Orac on Oct 20, 2023 8:08:10 GMT
Likely business interests are people trafficking, drugs and arms smuggling.
The current woke fashion for a border-less world helps all these enterprises.
The kickbacks are likely huge.
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