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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2023 19:30:55 GMT
I thought the "West Bank" had a border with Jordan. Is that a Muslim country? Nearly all land obtained by Israel since the country was "created" at the UN was obtained in defensive actions after Israel was attacked in 1967. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War |
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Post by bancroft on Oct 12, 2023 19:40:10 GMT
I normally detest the BBC though for once respect their attempt to not be partisan.
I think they should refer to acts as terrorism yet the people that did this as gunman does not bother me.
The history of the country has a relation to how they report it.
I know many will not share that view yet life would be boring if we all did.
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Post by wapentake on Oct 12, 2023 21:36:22 GMT
This is worth a listen to, describes what is happening in the West Bank where since '67 despite UN opposition Israeli settlers are grabbing land backed by the army and surrounding Arab communities. Unlike Gaza the West Bank does not hold a land border with another Muslim country so they cannot weapons. www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uuD0cGKu1YYes indeed |
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Post by bancroft on Oct 13, 2023 13:37:43 GMT
No one was enforcing removing the settlers, politically it was seen as bad news so after a while a blind-eye was turned and complicity then allowed with roads and military outposts to support their presence. UN requests were ignored.
It looks to me that Israel is looking to slowly and surely take all the land and then have a state of apartheid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2023 13:56:46 GMT
I read in the Torygraph that the BBC were saying Ofcom had told them to use the term "militant".
Ofcom said they were happy for the BBC to use the term terrorist. I'll wait with bated breath.
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Post by sandypine on Oct 13, 2023 21:04:02 GMT
No one was enforcing removing the settlers, politically it was seen as bad news so after a while a blind-eye was turned and complicity then allowed with roads and military outposts to support their presence. UN requests were ignored. It looks to me that Israel is looking to slowly and surely take all the land and then have a state of apartheid. Israel gave up settlements in Gaza and in fact forcibly removed the settlers as part of a peace agreement. The Palestinians of course destroyed all the settlements first before taking over the land. Apartheid type government is the norm in the ME. Democracy is given lip service but whoever wins they rule absolutely and if someone else wins next time they rule absolutely. Hamas were elected at one point so they are the government, despite much civil type war. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 14, 2023 7:19:28 GMT
When referring to Hamas the BBC refuse to use the word 'terrorist'. BBC guidelines say ...
Our reporting of possible acts of terror should be timely and responsible, bearing in mind our requirement for due accuracy and impartiality. Terrorism is a difficult and emotive subject with significant political overtones and care is required in the use of language that carries value judgements. We should not use the term ‘terrorist’ without attribution.
The word ‘terrorist’ itself can be a barrier rather than an aid to understanding. We should convey to our audience the full consequences of the act by describing what happened. We should use words which specifically describe the perpetrator such as ‘bomber’, ‘attacker’, ‘gunman’, ‘kidnapper’, ‘insurgent’ and ‘militant’. We should not adopt other people’s language as our own; our responsibility is to remain objective and report in ways that enable our audiences to make their own assessments about who is doing what to whom.”However, previous BBC headlines have included... Oxford woman admits distributing terrorist publications. Man admits sharing far right terrorist documents. York gets emergency grab bags in case of terrorist attack. Prison officer faces jail for possessing terrorist handbook. The big cases: Homegrown terrorist. Isle of Wight boy 15 accused of planning terrorist attacks. It would seem the BBC are in fact quite fond of using the word 'terrorist', unless they are referring to a legally proscribed terrorist organisation. order-order.com/2023/10/11/bbcs-excuse-for-not-referring-to-hamas-as-terrorists-is-inconsistent/They always called the BNP far-right which does not gel with their stance that people have to make up their own minds as regards who is doing what to whom and what people are. They also call many groups anti-immigrant when many are openly not anti immigrant just anti mass migration. It confirms my belief that the left are hypocritical in outlook. Yes. The BBC are very quick to label parties as "far Right" when they're usually no such thing. Farage was called far Right. But when it comes to Left wing politicians and parties - or terrorist groups - they're very unwilling to label them as extremists. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 14, 2023 18:08:52 GMT
BBC building vandalised with red paint after backlash over broadcaster’s refusal to call Hamas ‘terrorists’ The BBC broadcasting house in London appears to have been vandalised with red paint overnight. In scenes shared on X, formerly known as Twitter, the entrance to the building is entirely covered in red paint splattered across the floor, numerous glass revolving doors and the walls eitherside. Newsnight host Victoria Derbyshire took to X to share a clip, writing: ‘Just arrived at work. This is the front entrance to BBC this morning.’ metro.co.uk/2023/10/14/bbc-building-london-vandalised-protest-hamas-terrorists-israel-latest-19662685/Perhaps the BBC will in future remain impartial rather than taking sides. Although, I wouldn't bank on it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2023 6:48:17 GMT
I normally detest the BBC though for once respect their attempt to not be partisan. I think they should refer to acts as terrorism yet the people that did this as gunman does not bother me. The history of the country has a relation to how they report it. I know many will not share that view yet life would be boring if we all did. I can happily respect your opinion. The obvious issue here is that it's also just the BBC's opinion and not what is defined by law. The BBC pick and choose to benefit the specific propaganda they peddle, as seen by the hypocrisy other people on here have highlighted.
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