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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2023 15:49:01 GMT
For decades now, neither the Conservatives OR Labour have built enough homes, in particular homes to rent / social housing.
For those that say "you cannot build in the countryside" ( usually the same people who think that combating traffic congestion is done by building more roads, and widening roads ), then WHERE do you build more homes. ?
Sorry, but its an indisputable fact that we have to build more homes, and they must be built on available land.
If there are no reasonable or valid reasons for NOT building homes on vaccant land, which has to include the countryside, then as Keir Starmer said "Bulldoze your way past the NIMBY's"
We need to get Britain moving again after too many years of stagnation
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Post by bancroft on Oct 14, 2023 16:32:33 GMT
A lot of people seem to like moving out and working remotely with just an occasional presence.
What the need seems to be is housing for the poorer part of society which undoubtedly means more social problems.
So more 'Grenfells' plonked in Tory suburbs no doubt.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 14, 2023 16:43:05 GMT
A lot of people seem to like moving out and working remotely with just an occasional presence. What the need seems to be is housing for the poorer part of society which undoubtedly means more social problems. So more 'Grenfells' plonked in Tory suburbs no doubt. I disagree. Very many young educated people struggle to move from rented to owner because of the sheer price of houses. |
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Post by bancroft on Oct 14, 2023 16:55:42 GMT
A lot of people seem to like moving out and working remotely with just an occasional presence. What the need seems to be is housing for the poorer part of society which undoubtedly means more social problems. So more 'Grenfells' plonked in Tory suburbs no doubt. I disagree. Very many young educated people struggle to move from rented to owner because of the sheer price of houses. It's been happening for almost three decades the ones that get on the property get help from parents in London anyway. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 14, 2023 17:00:44 GMT
If there are no reasonable or valid reasons for NOT building homes on vaccant land, which has to include the countryside, then as Keir Starmer said "Bulldoze your way past the NIMBY's" yet only 2 years ago. Labour under Staremer were supporting the Nimbys.. ..how times change..  |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 14, 2023 17:23:39 GMT
I disagree. Very many young educated people struggle to move from rented to owner because of the sheer price of houses. It's been happening for almost three decades the ones that get on the property get help from parents in London anyway. It was hidden for quite a while by near zero interest rates. One thing hat really angers me is that our way of controlling inflation is to charge huge amounts of interest from the young and give it to the rich. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 14, 2023 17:32:42 GMT
I disagree. Very many young educated people struggle to move from rented to owner because of the sheer price of houses. It's been happening for almost three decades the ones that get on the property get help from parents in London anyway. Labour still don't want developers to decide what gets built, they still want local involvement, its planning offices they want weakened. I can tell you that council planning offices are a bloody nightmare in some towns. Overarching policies are too strictly adhered to, to the point of ludicrous. We've been told we were bringing the wrong type of jobs (not manufacturing) in one town. Another will only let you develop in the town centre because they want to renew it, even when there was nothing suitable for us. My mate is a property developer and he could give you nightmares |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 16, 2023 17:29:57 GMT
Thank you for your contributions to this thread.
Its clear almost everyone thinks we need to build more houses and reduce their prices.
Lets hope the government read this.
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Post by Orac on Oct 16, 2023 19:03:01 GMT
It's been happening for almost three decades the ones that get on the property get help from parents in London anyway. It was hidden for quite a while by near zero interest rates. One thing hat really angers me is that our way of controlling inflation is to charge huge amounts of interest from the young and give it to the rich. Reality sometimes makes me furious as well. You have to learn to breath between bouts of indignation. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 16, 2023 19:14:35 GMT
It was hidden for quite a while by near zero interest rates. One thing hat really angers me is that our way of controlling inflation is to charge huge amounts of interest from the young and give it to the rich. Reality sometimes makes me furious as well. You have to learn to breath between bouts of indignation. Its real in the sense that its true. But its not the only way to curb spending. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 16, 2023 19:36:32 GMT
Reality sometimes makes me furious as well. You have to learn to breath between bouts of indignation. Its real in the sense that its true. But its not the only way to curb spending. I explained this before - the idea is to send a market signal (incentive) against borrowing (to make it less attractive as a means of competing). With higher interest rates a company can only justify a smaller amount of borrowing in order to create a fixed amount of wealth. A changing relationship between borrowing (money supply) and wealth is what causes inflation. Banks also often go bust in contractions. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 16, 2023 20:21:28 GMT
Its real in the sense that its true. But its not the only way to curb spending. I explained this before - the idea is to send a market signal (incentive) against borrowing (to make it less attractive as a means of competing). With higher interest rates a company can only justify a smaller amount of borrowing in order to create a fixed amount of wealth. A changing relationship between borrowing (money supply) and wealth is what causes inflation. Banks also often go bust in contractions. Thanks Dad. I never knew that. 🙄 But there's another way to stop wealth creating inflation. One that effects those with money rather than those without. But old men and women on here are very happy to see someone else take the strain. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 16, 2023 20:30:19 GMT
I explained this before - the idea is to send a market signal (incentive) against borrowing (to make it less attractive as a means of competing). With higher interest rates a company can only justify a smaller amount of borrowing in order to create a fixed amount of wealth. A changing relationship between borrowing (money supply) and wealth is what causes inflation. Banks also often go bust in contractions. Thanks Dad. I never knew that. 🙄 But there's another way to stop wealth creating inflation. One that effects those with money rather than those without. Wealth doesn't cause inflation - in fact, almost (but not entirely) the converse is true. Inflation is a changing relationship between wealth and money - ie too little wealth being created for too much money being borrowed. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 16, 2023 20:46:12 GMT
Thanks Dad. I never knew that. 🙄 But there's another way to stop wealth creating inflation. One that effects those with money rather than those without. Wealth doesn't cause inflation - in fact, almost (but not entirely) the converse is true. Inflation is a changing relationship between wealth and money - ie too little wealth being created for too much money being borrowed. Don't be daft. Inflation is caused by too much money in the market, doesn't matter whether its borrowed or earned. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 16, 2023 21:08:40 GMT
Wealth doesn't cause inflation - in fact, almost (but not entirely) the converse is true. Inflation is a changing relationship between wealth and money - ie too little wealth being created for too much money being borrowed. Don't be daft. Inflation is caused by too much money in the market, doesn't matter whether its borrowed or earned. or created - we have inflation because Mark Carney (and the Treasury) spent the last 13 years keeping interest rate at artificially low amounts and printing QE like there was no tomorrow. Well there is a tomorrow and it has arrived... of course Mark Carney has fucked off now saying it's nothing to do with him.. |
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