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Post by Bentley on Oct 20, 2023 11:27:56 GMT
If a religious zealot insist that Jesus wants me for a moonbeam , I can refute this and refute this robustly.
We have not always been in that position. There was a time when this would have been seen as an illegal act . Denying religious dogma still is an illegal act 8n some countries .
However if a bloke in dress insists that he is a woman ,I can’t deny it and certainly not robustly.
Not only that but real women seem to be denied the right to deny it and it seems that this will be enshrined in law if the identity politics party is elected .
They woke left are replacing traditional religion with its own dogma .
This isn’t progress l
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Post by om15 on Oct 20, 2023 16:40:47 GMT
Why, would you shag it?
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 20, 2023 23:22:51 GMT
Is that your definition of a woman? It would rule out at least half of the women born without a penis. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 21, 2023 7:53:49 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if it's another hung Parliament.Keir Starmer is not exactly a charismatic man. He does not come across as assertive. There is very little about Labour that says "leadership". They are still quite rudderless. All parties appear uninspiring. I wouldn't be surprised if the turnout is down compared to 2019. Not a bad idea Vinny,but sadly I can’t support capital punishment even for the mismanagement by Westminster. 😉 |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 21, 2023 8:30:56 GMT
Women have ovaries, wombs and vaginas.
Men have testicles, penises and cannot get pregnant.
If someone wants to become a eunuch, that's their right, but don't expect everyone to respect that decision.
Labour seems to think that cross dressers be treated as if they are women and that eunuchs be treated as if they are women. If they try to impose such absurdities it could cost them next year's election.
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Post by patman post on Oct 21, 2023 14:41:42 GMT
Funny how lefty remnants believe that a government elected with 40% of the vote is legit but a referendum won with 52% isn't. A parliamentary election is contested by several parties, so it is probable that the party getting most votes and winning most seats won't cross the 50% line. That's how alliances and coalitions can come about.
On the other hand, a referendum with a choice of two answers is unlikely to register a draw — one answer or the other must almost invariably come out ahead, even if only by one vote.
This has long been recognised as unsatisfactory and is why, for constitutional and other major changes, many countries and organisations set various requirements: eg, a minimum turnout, a 60:40 split, a minimum proportion of registered voters, etc.
Some real-life illustrations can be found in...:
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Post by patman post on Oct 21, 2023 14:55:28 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 21, 2023 17:12:32 GMT
Funny how lefty remnants believe that a government elected with 40% of the vote is legit but a referendum won with 52% isn't. A parliamentary election is contested by several parties, so it is probable that the party getting most votes and winning most seats won't cross the 50% line. That's how alliances and coalitions can come about.
On the other hand, a referendum with a choice of two answers is unlikely to register a draw — one answer or the other must almost invariably come out ahead, even if only by one vote.
This has long been recognised as unsatisfactory and is why, for constitutional and other major changes, many countries and organisations set various requirements: eg, a minimum turnout, a 60:40 split, a minimum proportion of registered voters, etc.
Some real-life illustrations can be found in...:
Would it have been unsatisfactory if the result had been the other way and Remain won? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 21, 2023 17:20:46 GMT
Precisely. Which is why sexy lingerie brand Victoria's Secrets are going back to using slim attractive female models. They have discovered that fat women and men in stockings don't sell sexy lingerie. Who'd a thunk it. |
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Post by patman post on Oct 21, 2023 18:02:54 GMT
A parliamentary election is contested by several parties, so it is probable that the party getting most votes and winning most seats won't cross the 50% line. That's how alliances and coalitions can come about.
On the other hand, a referendum with a choice of two answers is unlikely to register a draw — one answer or the other must almost invariably come out ahead, even if only by one vote.
This has long been recognised as unsatisfactory and is why, for constitutional and other major changes, many countries and organisations set various requirements: eg, a minimum turnout, a 60:40 split, a minimum proportion of registered voters, etc.
Some real-life illustrations can be found in...:
Would it have been unsatisfactory if the result had been the other way and Remain won? It’s likely to have been as inconclusive and unsatisfactory as the 2016 result. But the sorting out of details, such as the wrangling over who sells what to who, and who passes what goods to where, etc, would have been avoided… |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 21, 2023 21:32:32 GMT
Would it have been unsatisfactory if the result had been the other way and Remain won? It’s likely to have been as inconclusive and unsatisfactory as the 2016 result. But the sorting out of details, such as the wrangling over who sells what to who, and who passes what goods to where, etc, would have been avoided… But are you talking about convenience or sovereignty? Would a decision by 52% of those that voted have been enough to settle the issue in 2016 if it had been for Remain?. Or would you still be complaining about the result 7 years later? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 21, 2023 22:20:06 GMT
It’s likely to have been as inconclusive and unsatisfactory as the 2016 result. But the sorting out of details, such as the wrangling over who sells what to who, and who passes what goods to where, etc, would have been avoided… But are you talking about convenience or sovereignty? Would a decision by 52% of those that voted have been enough to settle the issue in 2016 if it had been for Remain?. Or would you still be complaining about the result 7 years later? Indeed, also if remain had won it would have been a never to be repeated binding decision for all time for ever and ever so don't even think about another referendum, ever. |
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 22, 2023 17:05:04 GMT
Women have ovaries, wombs and vaginas. Men have testicles, penises and cannot get pregnant. If someone wants to become a eunuch, that's their right, but don't expect everyone to respect that decision. Labour seems to think that cross dressers be treated as if they are women and that eunuchs be treated as if they are women. If they try to impose such absurdities it could cost them next year's election. I'd forgotten about eunuchs (castrated men) who were used in Chinese/Asian history to guard the emperors harems Those few men in dresses who want their penises surgically removed (most don't they just want to cross dress with penises) become eunuchs |
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Post by happyhornet on Oct 25, 2023 10:08:35 GMT
For me I would hope of Labour win the next GE we see a government that moves on from petty distractions like culture war issues and focuses on:
The economy/cost of living crisis
The NHS
Education
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 27, 2023 23:21:23 GMT
And if they make Izzard a candidate, that'll not go well for Labour. I should coco. Jeez, imagine bumping into Labour candidate ' Suzi' LOL. Mothers would be picking their screaming kids up and running in panic. He/she/it/they/them, is more reminiscent of a horror film baddie than a parliamentary candidate.  There is, out there in meme land, a picture of Ursula from The animated Little Mermaid, and Izzard. Once seen, you’ll never unsee the resemblance |
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