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Post by piglet on Oct 6, 2023 22:05:38 GMT
I watched a youtube video of an Oxford mathematician giving a lecture a few months ago discussing god. He thought god was a person, and has established the rules for life, the Universe etc. etc.
He also said that the unending trouble in the world was caused by a failure of ethics, we are growing away from God. No argument there, like Sodom and Gomorrah, there is a precedent. The evil in the world can only grow, best doing something about it.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 12:51:29 GMT
I watched a youtube video of an Oxford mathematician giving a lecture a few months ago discussing god. He thought god was a person, and has established the rules for life, the Universe etc. etc. He also said that the unending trouble in the world was caused by a failure of ethics, we are growing away from God. No argument there, like Sodom and Gomorrah, there is a precedent. The evil in the world can only grow, best doing something about it..... Did he give a reason for his idea that God is a person? I would be interested in seeing that link. A study of scripture does bear up that opinion since we are reported to be made in His image. Sadly we are seeing so many occurrences around the world now that are prophesied and the timing is right for the 2nd coming although I imagine that God will try to give the world as much time as possible to come good and recognise Him and His ultimate power and that belief and trust in His Son Jesus Christ is actually the only way we will be able to properly save ourselves. We see from the story of Sodom and Gomorrah that He tried hard to find a reason to save those people and their cities. I imagine He is doing the same now. Inevitably there must be an end since the earth is getting so tired, but of course there is still the millennium to look forward to when the adversary will be chained and finally, for a while, the earth will become a decent place to live with Jesus the Ruler. Of course only for those who accept, understand and believe. |
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Post by piglet on Oct 7, 2023 13:08:25 GMT
No he didnt, im sure you could find it on You Tube with oxford mathematician and god search, the video is only a few months old. The trouble in the world is about most people not knowing the difference between right and wrong, even now a new war has broken out in the gaza.
I see myself as a good person, why am i here,? this world is a shocker, i dont deserve this, or do i?
The professor showed extreme courage in giving that lecture to the crowd of Oxford intellectuals, to express such is too attract scorn. Well done. My understanding is that this world is not the lowest, but close too, that Ukranian boy was crushed by a Russian missile. This cant go on, thats what i meant by saying its best doing something about it above.
Flood, pestilence, heat?, who can complain? bring it on. you get what you deserve. Will i be saved?, i hope so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 13:45:23 GMT
I watched a youtube video of an Oxford mathematician giving a lecture a few months ago discussing god. He thought god was a person, and has established the rules for life, the Universe etc. etc. He also said that the unending trouble in the world was caused by a failure of ethics, we are growing away from God. No argument there, like Sodom and Gomorrah, there is a precedent. The evil in the world can only grow, best doing something about it..... Mathematics is based on an ordered universe, so I don't find anything unusual here. However, in regards to ethics, I find no relevance to his mathematics and that anyone could come to this conclusion using simple causality, especially if they believe in binary concepts like good and evil.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 14:21:32 GMT
No he didnt, im sure you could find it on You Tube with oxford mathematician and god search, the video is only a few months old. The trouble in the world is about most people not knowing the difference between right and wrong, even now a new war has broken out in the gaza. I see myself as a good person, why am i here,? this world is a shocker, i dont deserve this, or do i? The professor showed extreme courage in giving that lecture to the crowd of Oxford intellectuals, to express such is too attract scorn. Well done. My understanding is that this world is not the lowest, but close too, that Ukranian boy was crushed by a Russian missile. This cant go on, thats what i meant by saying its best doing something about it above. Flood, pestilence, heat?, who can complain? bring it on. you get what you deserve. Will i be saved?, i hope so. Somebody once said that for every problem you solve you create two more problems. I forget the name, but it got me to stop thinking. |
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 8, 2023 1:17:42 GMT
By historical standards a high proportion of people live in relative safety and peace. If you live in the West right now, you are one of luckiest people to have ever lived... that is a fact.
The human race is 7.9b individuals, all with different thoughts and opinions on what they find acceptable / unacceptable. Talk of good and evil is meaningless and you are actually, only describing what you think is good or evil.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Oct 8, 2023 10:58:28 GMT
It has been speculated that Yahweh was a actual person who lived around 6,000 bc or so. There is evidence that around that time there was a sudden improvement in agricultural methods, an increase in the varieties of domesticated flora and fauna, and the spread of a single language throughout the Mediterranean.
I wrote a short story in which archaeologists found God's tomb. They were able to extract DNA from his remains ... and identify his living descendants.
Was God a man of peace? A benign priestly figure?
Probably not .... Yahweh Saboath is "The warrior with the strong right arm".
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Post by piglet on Oct 8, 2023 11:59:51 GMT
I can b4, no it isnt dodgy dave. I recently read that at its core, most people are evil, evil is black and white. Id go so far as to say 95 percent are. Go on dave, tell me how the death of an 11 year old was justified.
If you cant tell the difference you are in big trouble.
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 8, 2023 20:34:10 GMT
I can b4, no it isnt dodgy dave. I recently read that at its core, most people are evil, evil is black and white. Id go so far as to say 95 percent are. Go on dave, tell me how the death of an 11 year old was justified. If you cant tell the difference you are in big trouble. You are just virtue signaling. I am 100% confident that if I trawled through your life with a fine toothed comb I could find at least one (in your own words) "act of evil". Would that one act make you "evil"? As for a mathematician going on about a religious narrative such as good and evil, it just shows you can excel at one thing but be utterly stupid in other areas! |
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Post by piglet on Oct 9, 2023 12:44:56 GMT
No im not, you dodged the question, you are in big trouble. And then you try and rope me into being evil too, and yes i have done things i regret. But at no point in my life did i ever pre meditate a bad act, i am not god. Guilty as charged.
Getting back to YOU. The death of an 11 year old.....so what eh?
So the good things i have done, as a child rescued drowning bugs from water butts, even now, rescue worms from paths, wild animals, donate to charity, several. ive spent my life on the front line on the NHS, on the sharp end of the front line as a charge nurse, i nursed my parents through their deaths, at home, volunteer at a rescue duck centre, i feed the birds daily, no miss .....yadda yadda....... all in an effort to leave this god forsaken sh ithole a better place, and get my a rse out of here and onto something better.
To talk of good and evil is meaningless eh? Tell that to a duck thats infected and needs an antibiotic inserted in its craw and struggles. Christ sake.
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 10, 2023 2:06:58 GMT
No im not, you dodged the question, you are in big trouble. And then you try and rope me into being evil too, and yes i have done things i regret. But at no point in my life did i ever pre meditate a bad act, i am not god. Guilty as charged. Getting back to YOU. The death of an 11 year old.....so what eh? So the good things i have done, as a child rescued drowning bugs from water butts, even now, rescue worms from paths, wild animals, donate to charity, several. ive spent my life on the front line on the NHS, on the sharp end of the front line as a charge nurse, i nursed my parents through their deaths, at home, volunteer at a rescue duck centre, i feed the birds daily, no miss .....yadda yadda....... all in an effort to leave this god forsaken sh ithole a better place, and get my a rse out of here and onto something better. To talk of good and evil is meaningless eh? Tell that to a duck thats infected and needs an antibiotic inserted in its craw and struggles. Christ sake. You missed the point. Good and evil is a religious concept, and I have the right to refuse too accept it. I was brought up as a Catholic, told I was a sinner, had to confess my sins etc and I reject it all. When people do bad things and they should be held accountable for that action. It's just religious nonsense to try to attach the word evil onto it. Is there a manual I can read that defines what acts are evil, or the balance of bad vs good a person must achieve to earn the label evil? |
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Post by piglet on Oct 10, 2023 13:29:31 GMT
Im not getting drawn into this, id be wasting my time, best of luck.
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