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Post by Pacifico on Oct 7, 2023 11:23:39 GMT
So what about the - MAJORITY - of NHS trusts which have no PFI debt ? No matter what garbbage you post, I will trip you up every time, because what you post is mostly rubbish, the NHS is in a terrible state because of THIS government and NOT the government which left office in 2010. In 2010 the NHS was functioning finebecause of the massive long-term financial debts that Labour left for someone else to sort out |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 7, 2023 11:24:52 GMT
The reason why I laugh at your post Fairsociety, and the reason why I wont weep is because the NHS was functioning fine when Tony Blair left office, and it was functioning fine 3 years later when the Tories came to power. The reason why I laugh at your post is because in 2007, and in 2010, waiting lists were low, waiting times were low, ambulances responded within response times, and people did not wait two or three weeks to see a GP. You are no better than Jonksy, you blame a government which was in power 13 years ago for the gradual deterioration of the NHS FROM 2010. You blame PFI, you blame immigrants and asylum seekers, you blame doctors and you blame the management, but you refuse to blame the real culprits - The Tory Government. Notice you 'overlooked' tuition fees brought in by Blair.... the party for the poor ......... LOL |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 7, 2023 11:26:48 GMT
The reason why I laugh at your post Fairsociety, and the reason why I wont weep is because the NHS was functioning fine when Tony Blair left office, and it was functioning fine 3 years later when the Tories came to power. The reason why I laugh at your post is because in 2007, and in 2010, waiting lists were low, waiting times were low, ambulances responded within response times, and people did not wait two or three weeks to see a GP. You are no better than Jonksy, you blame a government which was in power 13 years ago for the gradual deterioration of the NHS FROM 2010. You blame PFI, you blame immigrants and asylum seekers, you blame doctors and you blame the management, but you refuse to blame the real culprits - The Tory Government. No I blame Blair. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 12:38:30 GMT
So what about the - MAJORITY - of NHS trusts which have no PFI debt ? No matter what garbbage you post, I will trip you up every time, because what you post is mostly rubbish, the NHS is in a terrible state because of THIS government and NOT the government which left office in 2010. In 2010 the NHS was functioning finebecause of the massive long-term financial debts that Labour left for someone else to sort out Ok, so lets deal with this one The NHS Trusts and Hospitals which had or which used PFI to build new infastructure / new hospitals were ring-fenced, the PFI bill did not go directly to the NHS or the government, the contracts are / were held by individual trusts. MOST hospitals and MOST NHS Trusts did not, and do not have PFI contracts, this excuse is a total Red Herring, the appaling state of our NHS is throughout the NHS, from top to bottom, in Trusts which have never had PFI Contracts, in the Ambulance Services, in GP Practice, in Dentistry, everywhere. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 12:42:28 GMT
Nonsensical posts from posters with heavily tinted glasses of the Rose variety, but the electorate wont be fooled.
An NHS which was fine in 2010, but which immediately began to deteriorate after 2010, is all the fault of Tony Blair who left office SIXTEEN YEARS AGO.
Well try selling that theory to the electorate
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 12:46:32 GMT
The reason why I laugh at your post Fairsociety, and the reason why I wont weep is because the NHS was functioning fine when Tony Blair left office, and it was functioning fine 3 years later when the Tories came to power. The reason why I laugh at your post is because in 2007, and in 2010, waiting lists were low, waiting times were low, ambulances responded within response times, and people did not wait two or three weeks to see a GP. You are no better than Jonksy, you blame a government which was in power 13 years ago for the gradual deterioration of the NHS FROM 2010. You blame PFI, you blame immigrants and asylum seekers, you blame doctors and you blame the management, but you refuse to blame the real culprits - The Tory Government. Notice you 'overlooked' tuition fees brought in by Blair.... the party for the poor ......... LOL They certainly pulled the ladder up behind them on that day. It was massive debt and a degree in art for a lot of people. Oh and here's a shiny credit card from the Bank of Scotland, kiddies. We will live off the interest from your debt slavery for years. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 12:59:05 GMT
Nonsensical posts from posters with heavily tinted glasses of the Rose variety, but the electorate wont be fooled. An NHS which was fine in 2010, but which immediately began to deteriorate after 2010, is all the fault of Tony Blair who left office SIXTEEN YEARS AGO.
Well try selling that theory to the electorate
Lets hope he does. Yet another nail in labours coffin. Nobody with any sence would listen to that self serving ringpeice. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 13:06:18 GMT
More of labours paymasters antics Strike action could block sea ports all across the country as industrial disputes take place over compulsory medical examinations for port workers. Unite has warned Associated British Ports (ABP) that strike action could take place across its 21 ports which handle around a quarter of the UK’s seaborne trade. The dispute comes after workers were unhappy that ABP introduced increased medical standards without their consultation, which Unite say is required under health and safety legislation and Unite’s recognition agreement.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 13:25:26 GMT
UNITE ... Is not the Labour Party, they are a separate organisation, Unite is a Union which looks after, and protects workers ( their members ), Unite is "affiliated" to the Labour Party.
Here is part of the official statement by Unite, regarding Associated British Ports.
" Unite has no objection to improving standards but there has been no negotiations and no detail about how these medical tests will be done or what happens if a member fails. This is a serious concern as ultimately members’ jobs could be at stake"
Unite is clearly not asking for much, only what might happen to port workers who fail these enhanced medical tests, Unite is doing what it is supposed to do, protect workers.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 13:29:02 GMT
UNITE ... Is not the Labour Party, they are a separate organisation, Unite is a Union which looks after, and protects workers ( their members ), Unite is "affiliated" to the Labour Party. Here is part of the official statement by Unite, regarding Associated British Ports. " Unite has no objection to improving standards but there has been no negotiations and no detail about how these medical tests will be done or what happens if a member fails. This is a serious concern as ultimately members’ jobs could be at stake" Unite is clearly not asking for much, only what might happen to port workers who fail these enhanced medical tests, Unite is doing what it is supposed to do, protect workers. The Unions are labours payemasters FFS. Sop try to defend in indefensible. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 7, 2023 13:51:27 GMT
So what about the - MAJORITY - of NHS trusts which have no PFI debt ? No matter what garbbage you post, I will trip you up every time, because what you post is mostly rubbish, the NHS is in a terrible state because of THIS government and NOT the government which left office in 2010. In 2010 the NHS was functioning finebecause of the massive long-term financial debts that Labour left for someone else to sort out Don't be so deceitful all the time. The debts left by NL were the product of all the money in the Banks disappearing and the need of the Banks to be bailed out by the government. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 13:53:38 GMT
Why is it indefensible to ask Associated British Ports to discuss their proposals with the union ?
Or to seek clarification on what ABP may do to workers who fail their new enhanced medical tests ?
Perhaps as a traditional Tory, you feel that workers are a mere commodity to be simply disposed of if not required any more.
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Post by see2 on Oct 7, 2023 13:54:22 GMT
There was a time when Doctors stayed out of politics and concentrated on healing the sick, how times change
Revealed: Militant union leader at the heart of doctors' strikes is a Labour activist who boasted of charging the NHS £1,870 for a strike cover shift Dr Tom Dolphin made the extortionate sum covering for picketing colleagues
A militant union leader behind the doctors' strikes is a Labour activist who has boasted of charging the NHS £1,870 for a single strike cover shift.
Dr Tom Dolphin made the extortionate sum covering for picketing colleagues and donated it to the British Medical Association's strike fund.
Dr Tom Dolphin made the extortionate sum covering for picketing colleagues and donated it to the British Medical Association's strike fund
The consultant anaesthetist, from London, wrote on X - formerly known as Twitter - that the war chest 'supports people to strike, meaning the strike is stronger and the win will come sooner'.
He is a member of the ruling BMA Council, a member of the BMA Consultant's Committee and acts as a media spokesperson for striking doctors.
The Mail can today reveal that Dr Dolphin is also a Labour activist who has been a political campaigner for more than a decade.
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Post by see2 on Oct 7, 2023 13:56:38 GMT
UNITE ... Is not the Labour Party, they are a separate organisation, Unite is a Union which looks after, and protects workers ( their members ), Unite is "affiliated" to the Labour Party. Here is part of the official statement by Unite, regarding Associated British Ports. " Unite has no objection to improving standards but there has been no negotiations and no detail about how these medical tests will be done or what happens if a member fails. This is a serious concern as ultimately members’ jobs could be at stake" Unite is clearly not asking for much, only what might happen to port workers who fail these enhanced medical tests, Unite is doing what it is supposed to do, protect workers. The Unions are labours payemasters FFS. Sop try to defend in indefensible. Insinuating a lie. A typical Tory approach. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 7, 2023 14:03:41 GMT
The reason why I laugh at your post Fairsociety, and the reason why I wont weep is because the NHS was functioning fine when Tony Blair left office, and it was functioning fine 3 years later when the Tories came to power. The reason why I laugh at your post is because in 2007, and in 2010, waiting lists were low, waiting times were low, ambulances responded within response times, and people did not wait two or three weeks to see a GP. You are no better than Jonksy, you blame a government which was in power 13 years ago for the gradual deterioration of the NHS FROM 2010. You blame PFI, you blame immigrants and asylum seekers, you blame doctors and you blame the management, but you refuse to blame the real culprits - The Tory Government. Notice you 'overlooked' tuition fees brought in by Blair.... the party for the poor ......... LOL Thatcher left the majority of state schools falling apart due to her Selective 'Grant Maintained' system of funding. The overwhelming majority of children go to state schools, so seeing state schools being properly funded IS certainly looking after the poor .... LOL |
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