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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 7, 2023 16:55:28 GMT
Again, Badenoch gets it 100% wrong No Labour Party official, MP, or shadow cabinet member has ever said that there "is no point trying" and that black people "will never get on" or that you are "better off asking for reparations", so how can that be the narrative. ? She makes things up as she goes along This is Stoking the fires of culture wars Only a few days ago a group of black women on a train including Selma Taha, were racially abused and physically attacken on a London tube train whilst an off duty Metropolitan Police detective constable sat by and did nothing. Selma Taha was bitten so hard by the woman who attacked her, that imprints of the womans teeth were left deeply imprinted into her body, she also had clumps of hair pulled out of her head, but the off duty police officer did nothing. In the end, Selma Taha threatened the police officer, telling him that unless he did something, they would report him to the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, soon after the attacker was arrested. A Met Police spokesperson said it was aware of the alleged assault and confirmed an off-duty Met officer was present. ( The Independent ) Why is there a very long list of incidents and occurences of racism and prejudice in the UKs largest police force ? And just over six months ago an OFFICIAL REPORT stated this: "The Metropolitan police is broken and rotten, suffering collapsing public trust and is guilty of institutional racism, misogyny and homophobia" But Kemi Badenoch says that the UK is the most wonderfull place on earth for black people, and never even mentions once that there are still today some problems with racism. THAT is dishonesty, and its an attempt to give a wholly false impression. Well let's just debunk your post, if there is such a problem with the UK and its 'racism' why have we thousands upon thousands of illegal migrants scrambling around the world to get to the UK?
LOL ... Why would so many be risking life and limb to reach such a horrible nasty racist Country?
Give it up sid, if the Tories are guilty of anything it's making life far too cushy for migrants, hence the reason they are all heading this way >>>>>>>>>>>>>UK
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Post by Bentley on Oct 7, 2023 17:00:51 GMT
Again, Badenoch gets it 100% wrong No Labour Party official, MP, or shadow cabinet member has ever said that there "is no point trying" and that black people "will never get on" or that you are "better off asking for reparations", so how can that be the narrative. ? She makes things up as she goes along This is Stoking the fires of culture wars Only a few days ago a group of black women on a train including Selma Taha, were racially abused and physically attacken on a London tube train whilst an off duty Metropolitan Police detective constable sat by and did nothing. Selma Taha was bitten so hard by the woman who attacked her, that imprints of the womans teeth were left deeply imprinted into her body, she also had clumps of hair pulled out of her head, but the off duty police officer did nothing. In the end, Selma Taha threatened the police officer, telling him that unless he did something, they would report him to the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, soon after the attacker was arrested. A Met Police spokesperson said it was aware of the alleged assault and confirmed an off-duty Met officer was present. ( The Independent ) Why is there a very long list of incidents and occurences of racism and prejudice in the UKs largest police force ? And just over six months ago an OFFICIAL REPORT stated this: "The Metropolitan police is broken and rotten, suffering collapsing public trust and is guilty of institutional racism, misogyny and homophobia" But Kemi Badenoch says that the UK is the most wonderfull place on earth for black people, and never even mentions once that there are still today some problems with racism. THAT is dishonesty, and its an attempt to give a wholly false impression. That’s rich. You are saying that she claimed that she was quoting a Labour politician ( she wasn’t) after posting “Is as good as saying that (A) racism and discrimination does not exist in this country, and (B) that the past, including the very recent past has some particularly nasty horror stories when it comes to prejudice and racism.” From ‘ she’s a good as saying “ to ‘ they never actually said that “. Stoking the fires of culture wars is falsely claiming the existence ‘ white privilege’ and extensive racism in the UK.
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Post by patman post on Oct 7, 2023 18:42:21 GMT
Don’t think so Pat,I know a few people who came to this country or parents did decades ago and they are as concerned. It's strange how pat can make a condescending remark like ...'Given the number of ethnic minority cabinet members, has there already been a takeover'?, obviously aimed as a slur against the Tories.
While in the same breath trying to condemn those who want to send ethnics to Rwanda, I wish lefties would make their mind up, they either support all 'ethnics' of all social standing, instead of cherry picking the ones that have made good and aren't going along with the racist UK narrative, by trying to discredit them.
Slur against the Tories? If what posted is construed as one, it can only be that they took their eye off the ball after Enoch’s warning…
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Post by patman post on Oct 7, 2023 18:49:58 GMT
I disagree. Those are not part of Tory DNA or among Conservative Party traditions. They are actions, attitudes and values of the type that became growingly common among small groups of Tory back benchers and and displayed by leading figures like John Redwood, Iain Duncan Smith, and Boris Johnson… And quickly picked up by many posters, and now Badenoch, who is now a fully paid up contributor of political diarrhea. The big ovation given to her when she finished suggests you have got it wrong.Incidentally, IIRC Churchill was well known for his putdowns. That’s not my impression. I’m betting a significant number of the audience are from areas like Tunbridge Wells, where the blue rinses and Col Blimps abound, and are disappointed that Ukip (their cover for their BNP views), is now having to be incorporated into Today’s Tory party. Once they start applauding others in the audience find it hard to resist…
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Post by sheepy on Oct 7, 2023 19:02:24 GMT
And quickly picked up by many posters, and now Badenoch, who is now a fully paid up contributor of political diarrhea. The big ovation given to her when she finished suggests you have got it wrong.Incidentally, IIRC Churchill was well known for his putdowns. That’s not my impression. I’m betting a significant number of the audience are from areas like Tunbridge Wells, where the blue rinses and Col Blimps abound, and are disappointed that Ukip (their cover for their BNP views), is now having to be incorporated into Today’s Tory party. Once they start applauding others in the audience find it hard to resist… LOL
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 19:35:44 GMT
Again, Badenoch gets it 100% wrongShe is 100% correct and no amount of your constant lefy woke bullshit can change that fact.
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Post by see2 on Oct 7, 2023 19:37:54 GMT
The answer's easy, stop posting garbage. Nope. The answer is for you to post answers relevant to the post you replied to , not the voices in your geriatric head . Which I do, this "for you to post answers relevant to the post you replied to" is just your latest escape route, It is what you post once you have lost the plot.
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Post by see2 on Oct 7, 2023 19:41:03 GMT
Again, Badenoch gets it 100% wrongShe is 100% correct and no amount of your constant lefy woke bullshit can change that fact. No. its shitty Tory DNA dribbling out of her mouth. Naive Tories love it.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 7, 2023 19:53:37 GMT
Nope. The answer is for you to post answers relevant to the post you replied to , not the voices in your geriatric head . Which I do, this "for you to post answers relevant to the post you replied to" is just your latest escape route, It is what you post once you have lost the plot. Nope. It’s what I post when confused geriatrics post answers that are not relevant .
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Post by oracle75 on Oct 7, 2023 22:16:12 GMT
Sorry but do tell us exactly how Macron has turned into a right wing racist fanatic. I thought that was the popular identity of LePen. So you can’t understand that Macron and others have expressed their concern over the numbers rising and the liberal society’s in Denmark and Sweden are pushing back. So concern is fanaticicism?? Turn down the volume and hear the truth.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 7, 2023 22:23:13 GMT
No. its shitty Tory DNA dribbling out of her mouth. Naive Tories love it. try and tone down the misogyny..
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Post by wapentake on Oct 7, 2023 23:45:25 GMT
So you can’t understand that Macron and others have expressed their concern over the numbers rising and the liberal society’s in Denmark and Sweden are pushing back. So concern is fanaticicism?? Turn down the volume and hear the truth. I didn’t say they were fanatics,just point out the inconsistencies when political people in the UK are labelled when expressing similarconcerns,perhaps you should turn off your bias.
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 8, 2023 8:46:37 GMT
Again, Badenoch gets it 100% wrong No Labour Party official, MP, or shadow cabinet member has ever said that there "is no point trying" and that black people "will never get on" or that you are "better off asking for reparations", so how can that be the narrative. ? She makes things up as she goes along This is Stoking the fires of culture wars Only a few days ago a group of black women on a train including Selma Taha, were racially abused and physically attacken on a London tube train whilst an off duty Metropolitan Police detective constable sat by and did nothing. Selma Taha was bitten so hard by the woman who attacked her, that imprints of the womans teeth were left deeply imprinted into her body, she also had clumps of hair pulled out of her head, but the off duty police officer did nothing. In the end, Selma Taha threatened the police officer, telling him that unless he did something, they would report him to the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, soon after the attacker was arrested. A Met Police spokesperson said it was aware of the alleged assault and confirmed an off-duty Met officer was present. ( The Independent ) Why is there a very long list of incidents and occurences of racism and prejudice in the UKs largest police force ? And just over six months ago an OFFICIAL REPORT stated this: "The Metropolitan police is broken and rotten, suffering collapsing public trust and is guilty of institutional racism, misogyny and homophobia" But Kemi Badenoch says that the UK is the most wonderfull place on earth for black people, and never even mentions once that there are still today some problems with racism. THAT is dishonesty, and its an attempt to give a wholly false impression. The only person here who is wrong is you. You've made up numbers to race-bait, have ignored the 'factual based evidence' you say you rely on, dismiss Kemi's personal opinion and experience and continue to peddle your race baiting narrative. I think what can be learned from this is, take what you say with a huge bucket of salt. And that's being polite.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2023 10:52:03 GMT
buccaneer The only person here who is wrong is you.
You've made up numbers to race-bait, have ignored the 'factual based evidence' you say you rely on, dismiss Kemi's personal opinion and experience and continue to peddle your race baiting narrative.
I think what can be learned from this is, take what you say with a huge bucket of salt. And that's being polite. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Would you care to point out where I have "made up numbers" ?
I HAVE used factual based evidence, quoting OFFICIAL reports is factual evidence, pointing out real life incidents is factual evidence.
I have already stated that Kemi Badenoch's opinions are one persons opinions ( hers ), and that many black people disagree with her opinion, as do I.
I repeat ... that she attempts to give the impression that everything is just fine and dandy, that prejudice and discrimination does not exist, that the police in London and elsewhere are not REPEATEDLY called into question about their conduct, the conduct of individual officers and racism.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 8, 2023 10:55:21 GMT
buccaneer The only person here who is wrong is you.
You've made up numbers to race-bait, have ignored the 'factual based evidence' you say you rely on, dismiss Kemi's personal opinion and experience and continue to peddle your race baiting narrative.
I think what can be learned from this is, take what you say with a huge bucket of salt. And that's being polite. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Would you care to point out where I have "made up numbers" ? I HAVE used factual based evidence, quoting OFFICIAL reports is factual evidence, pointing out real life incidents is factual evidence. I have already stated that Kemi Badenoch's opinions are one persons opinions ( hers ), and that many black people disagree with her opinion, as do I. I repeat ... that she attempts to give the impression that everything is just fine and dandy, that prejudice and discrimination does not exist, that the police in London and elsewhere are not REPEATEDLY called into question about their conduct, the conduct of individual officers and racism. No she didn't, stop taking her own thoughts and making them into something that fits with your own personal politics.
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