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Post by Pacifico on Oct 4, 2023 21:05:24 GMT
I also very strongly disagree that Britain is the best country for black people to live in, I have always found it astonishing that a predominantly white, commonwealth country, with a democracy based on The Westminster style can be infinitely more tolerant and fairer than the United Kingdom. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoFGhYNi2Xc&t=31sOn what specific criteria are you basing this assertion? - bearing in mind that the UK has a much larger proportion of Black population (which is rising) than Canada (where the Black population is falling).
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Post by Bentley on Oct 4, 2023 21:05:35 GMT
The majority of black people in the UK from the time of the first Caribbean immigrants arrived in large numbers 1947-1948 until the 1980s were of Caribbean origin, overwhelmingly. It was not until the 21st century that "African & Other" blacks overtook Caribbean black in numbers As stated in my previous post, things for black people improved over a long period, begining in the 1960s with The Race Relations Act, by the time most Afican black immigrants came here, life was much improved for black and Asian people. The 1950s and 1960s were utterly appaling times for black people in this country, and people like Kemi Badenoch refuse to acknowledge history.She wasn’t talking about the 1950s .She was talking about the present.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 4, 2023 21:07:34 GMT
Well, lets put it this way ...... for every Kemi Badenoch, there are 100 black people who will disagree with her Political attitudes or opinions do not affect reality, factual and evidence based history or the truth There are a hundred people being told by progressive lefties that they are being treated different than white people. When a black Person refutes it the lefties come out with the torches and pitchforks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 21:20:15 GMT
I also very strongly disagree that Britain is the best country for black people to live in, I have always found it astonishing that a predominantly white, commonwealth country, with a democracy based on The Westminster style can be infinitely more tolerant and fairer than the United Kingdom. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoFGhYNi2Xc&t=31sOn what specific criteria are you basing this assertion? - bearing in mind that the UK has a much larger proportion of Black population (which is rising) than Canada (where the Black population is falling). Canada is a truly multi-cultural society where very few people question its multi-cultural society, and where the governing Liberal Party is one of the most sucessful political parties in the entire democratic west, been the party of government for 86 years since 1900. It is supremely a more tolerant society than the UK
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 4, 2023 21:32:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 21:48:47 GMT
More than a bit spurious there pacifico, some of those links question the "Accepted" way of thinking, that Canada is a tolerant, multi cultural nation.
I can asure you that racism and discrimination, and attitudes are very, very different in Canada compared to the UK.
Both the Liberal Party and The Conservative Party in Canada advocate and promote Multi-Cultarlism, and I am fairly certain that people with views like Suella Braverman, Kemi Badenoch would not be allowed in the Conservative Party of Canada.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 4, 2023 21:53:04 GMT
Well I was looking for some hard and fast criteria rather than just the opinion of some anonymous guy on the internet.
At the moment we have some black girl saying that the UK is the best place to be black and some white guy saying oh no it is not..
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 5, 2023 4:37:11 GMT
...most of them came to this country as poor, unskilled immigrants... And I'm sure that's how you want them to remain. Typical racist lefty. 🙄
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 5, 2023 4:38:04 GMT
So Fiddler's talking bollocks again?
Who'da thunk it?
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 5, 2023 8:45:02 GMT
Well, lets put it this way ...... for every Kemi Badenoch, there are 100 black people who will disagree with her Political attitudes or opinions do not affect reality, factual and evidence based history or the truth Factual evidence found that Britain was the most tolerant and open nation towards difference races when research was conducted throughout Europe. Another survey found that the UK was one of the least racist countries in the world: unherd.com/thepost/survey-uk-is-one-of-the-least-racist-countries-in-the-world/As blackiswhite has already said you don't care about factual evidence. You care for narratives that incite race-baiting.
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 5, 2023 9:11:34 GMT
One of my favourite stories about multicultural Canada concerns the 'Vancouver Tree Nazis'.
In the 1990s as the Chinese takeover loomed in Hong Kong there was a great rush for Canadian passports which could be bought relatively cheaply. Consequently many Chinese relocated with Vancouver the preferred destination. At the time it was possible to acquire a sizeable mansion for the price of quite modest apartment in HK, so many families moved with the husband staying most of the time in HK for business purposes (they became known as 'The Astronauts' but that's a separate story).
Anyway, what happened is many of the nice old mansions were demolished to be replaced by larger modern dwellings built out to the lot lines. In the course of this many beautiful old trees were also destroyed, ostensibly because they were bad Feng Shui, homes of demons and other unfriendly and unpropitious spirits.
A furore inevitably erupted and the city council got involved eventually voting in a ban on both mega lot-line McMansions and removal of mature trees, leading just as inevitably to an intervention by civil rights groups who naturally sided with the immigrants. Heated arguments followed with accusations of Nazi-like behaviour being made against city councillors and members of the public who objected to the wholesale degradation of their environment by incomers. The press naturally took up the story which is how the moniker 'Vancouver Tree Nazis' became common parlance.
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2023 9:29:25 GMT
A good example of right-wing garbage propaganda ^^^ It has been recognised that thousands of children are on Pills for depression. 1in 5 people in the UK are on anti-depression medication. And millions of people are happy to be driven by their unrecognized 'mental' problems, thinking they are being so clever. Welcome to the real world. What are you waffling in about ? Dont try to sully my posts with delusional your word salads . Sorry, I forgot you had such a shallow level of thinking.
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2023 9:39:57 GMT
A good example of right-wing garbage propaganda ^^^ It has been recognised that thousands of children are on Pills for depression. 1in 5 people in the UK are on anti-depression medication. And millions of people are happy to be driven by their unrecognized 'mental' problems, thinking they are being so clever. Welcome to the real world. I don't know about your real world. This post is not even at a tangent to the subject at hand so maybe it's you that has a reality problem? My post was an insight into the fact that people are different, many people have the sort of mental problems that deny them the ability to progress through the ranks, while others are actually driven by their mental problems. I wasn't that surprised when the person I posted to didn't catch on, but maybe a little surprised that you didn't.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 5, 2023 9:41:17 GMT
Well, lets put it this way ...... for every Kemi Badenoch, there are 100 black people who will disagree with her Political attitudes or opinions do not affect reality, factual and evidence based history or the truth He's just completely made that up.^^
Now I really do want to see proof of that, I often overlook statements like that, but this time I'm not putting up with a poster blatantly bandying about fictitious numbers. sid does realize that statistic he just made up 100, means that every single black person is disagreeing with her, 100 means she'd be included in that statistic, so she'd be disagreeing with herself.
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Post by see2 on Oct 5, 2023 9:45:48 GMT
What are you waffling in about ? Dont try to sully my posts with delusional your word salads . You have to remember mate you are addressing someone who stated that coloured people were always kept on the bottom rung of the employement ladder. Kemi Badenoch and Suella Braverman have stole the show at the Tory party conference. LIAR.
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