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Post by Pacifico on Oct 4, 2023 15:45:35 GMT
Here is a laugh - in 12 years time the renewables sector will be worth £46 Billion! ..the only problem is that we are currently subsidising that sector by over £4 Billion a year - the value of that sector will be less than subsidy to get there. They've just proven that it's not worth it..  |
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Post by see2 on Oct 4, 2023 16:32:31 GMT
Short term pain, long term gain. long term plain for no gain... So what is the alternative? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 16:57:06 GMT
long term plain for no gain... So what is the alternative? Keep calm and carry on. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 4, 2023 17:03:44 GMT
long term plain for no gain... So what is the alternative? Revenue neutral carbon tax - as described in the Stern Review. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 4, 2023 18:00:08 GMT
commonslibrary.parliament.uk/why-is-cheap-renewable-electricity-so-expensive/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20global%20average,onshore%20wind%20was%2039%25%20lower. Renewable generators typically have the lowest costs (because they do not have to buy fuel to burn) and so are the first to meet demand. Fossil fuel generators (including gas) often have the highest costs as they must buy fuel to burn, which also has a carbon price on it. As a result, although most electricity is produced using sources with low marginal costs (42% by renewables and 15% from nuclear), the price that is paid for electricity traded on the spot market is often higher, at the marginal cost of generating electricity with gas. Total BS Zany. I'm sorry Jonsky but in a contest between you saying "Total BS" and the Commons Library full report. The report wins. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 4, 2023 18:06:18 GMT
I'm sorry Jonsky but in a contest between you saying "Total BS" and the Commons Library full report. The report wins. What report FFS? |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 4, 2023 18:08:15 GMT
The current gas price is £32 per MWh - last month the windpower auction failed to attract any bids at £44 per MWh Someone has been pulling your leg,.. You keep falling back on that one. But we know the reason is lack in confidence in every market and the supply chain. No one is investing In the meantime the price per mWh is cheaper for renewable and that is a fact. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 4, 2023 18:09:50 GMT
I'm sorry Jonsky but in a contest between you saying "Total BS" and the Commons Library full report. The report wins. What report FFS? The one I linked. This one. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/why-is-cheap-renewable-electricity-so-expensive/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20global%20average,onshore%20wind%20was%2039%25%20lower. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 4, 2023 18:11:16 GMT
Here is a laugh - in 12 years time the renewables sector will be worth £46 Billion! ..the only problem is that we are currently subsidising that sector by over £4 Billion a year - the value of that sector will be less than subsidy to get there. They've just proven that it's not worth it.. Assuming wrongly that it will continue to be subsidised for the entire period. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 4, 2023 18:13:25 GMT
The one I linked. This one. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/why-is-cheap-renewable-electricity-so-expensive/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20global%20average,onshore%20wind%20was%2039%25%20lower. Oh I thought you were reffering to a scientific one not the ramblings of a pro bumburgher. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 4, 2023 18:18:12 GMT
The one I linked. This one. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/why-is-cheap-renewable-electricity-so-expensive/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20global%20average,onshore%20wind%20was%2039%25%20lower. Oh I thought you were reffering to a scientific one not the ramblings of a pro bumburgher. I doubt either would effect your view. But at least you gave me a laugh by calling The house of commons Library a pro bumburgher |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 18:50:44 GMT
So, are we celebrating the globalist corporate media's propaganda to bring pain to the people, again?
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Post by jonksy on Oct 4, 2023 19:05:14 GMT
Oh I thought you were reffering to a scientific one not the ramblings of a pro bumburgher. I doubt either would effect your view. But at least you gave me a laugh by calling The house of commons Library a pro bumburgher And who wrote the report Zany? REAL science points to the opposite. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 4, 2023 19:30:28 GMT
I doubt either would effect your view. But at least you gave me a laugh by calling The house of commons Library a pro bumburgher And who wrote the report Zany? REAL science points to the opposite. Its not an opinion piece Jonsky, its a factual report for MP's in the commons library. You want to link the real science of yours |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 19:39:06 GMT
And who wrote the report Zany? REAL science points to the opposite. Its not an opinion piece Jonsky, its a factual report for MP's in the commons library. You want to link the real science of yours So why put it in Mind Zone? I understand that Mind Zone is an invention of the Left that is here to push the same narrative with impunity, but since it's just brainless shouting across a table whilst taking the government's word as the gospel then I'd say the experiment has failed. |
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