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Post by jonksy on Oct 2, 2023 16:19:53 GMT
Funny the usual labour arselickers never post this nugget do they? But when labour climb up the polls the usual braindead can't shut the fuck up...
Rishi Sunak looks to position himself as an agent of change as poll suggests the gap between the Tories and Labour has narrowed to 10 points
A new poll suggested that the gap with Labour has narrowed to ten points.
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Post by dappy on Oct 2, 2023 16:22:18 GMT
As I said to Red on another thread.
There was one poll from Opinium which had Lab at 39% and Con at 29%. Other polls done the same day or a day or two from Wethink had Lab at 47% and Con at 27% and Techne had Lab at 45% and Con at 27%. The Tory press highlights every poll that moves in Con direction and ignores another poll from the same organisation which moves the other way. Time will tell whether the (I agree unconvincing) move towards the populist wing is beneficial or negative to Sunaks tories. I can see why they have rolled the dice but personally I think it will bit him on the backside.
Realistically the only way the tories can stay in power is if they plus the DUP have a majority between them. That feels unlikely. Personally I would prefer a Lab minority government to a majority but betting market does still seem to be heavily in majority direction. May be a year to go yet, we'll see what happens.
Britain Elects lists all the polls from credible organisations. Far more reliable than listening to the tabloids
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 7, 2023 4:46:11 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 6:16:42 GMT
Will Labour bounce after their conference? They can even agree amongst themselves. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 7, 2023 6:54:17 GMT
Will Labour bounce after their conference? They can even agree amongst themselves. That's a good question to ask. Starmer has built Labour's lead without any policies, but this is likely to be last conference before the General Election, so now he needs to be decisive in a vision. His risk though isn't about lack of bounce, but ensuring that he sures up his soft support once he does have policy announcements. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 7:02:16 GMT
Will Labour bounce after their conference? They can even agree amongst themselves. That's a good question to ask. Starmer has built Labour's lead without any policies, but this is likely to be last conference before the General Election, so now he needs to be decisive in a vision. His risk though isn't about lack of bounce, but ensuring that he sures up his soft support once he does have policy announcements. Good to see that you along with everyone else has no clue on labour policies as they change from hour by hour. Starmer hasn't made a single pledge that he has stuck too. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 7, 2023 7:08:05 GMT
They are actually u-turning on immigration - now they are saying it is too high, seems the desire for freedom of movement has diminished as the issue has risen up the political agenda. Perhaps they are looking at the polls...  50% of British people think a sustainable asylum policy is not possible if being gay/women/fearing discrimination in their home country is sufficient to qualify 51% back the government’s Rwanda policy (see also this). 52% think we should remove illegal migrants from the country 52% want "tighter" migration restrictions 52% want immigration reduced 54% Brits say net migration of 500,000 plus is "too high" 57% Brits say illegal migration policy "too soft" 57% have "no confidence" government can fix small boats crisis 58% Brits say the UK has already lost control of borders 58% think illegal migrants have shown “contempt for British laws” 60% think we should prioritise UK workers over migrant workers 63% Brits think current immigration "too high" And that’s not all. Here are a lot more numbers to keep in mind … 66% think, like Suella Braverman, uncontrolled & illegal immigration is an “existential challenge to the West” 69% think illegal migration has put “unsustainable pressure” on Britain and British taxpayers 70% think the government talks a good game on immigration now “needs to act” 84% think immigration has been handled "badly" by the government Just 14% think we should let EU judges impact decisions about UK borders And just 22% think immigration has been "mostly good" for UK |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 7:14:46 GMT
They are actually u-turning on immigration - now they are saying it is too high, seems the desire for freedom of movement has diminished as the issue has risen up the political agenda. Labour have always said immigration is to high and needs to be controlled, the Tories say the same but don't do it. Freedom of movement and immigration are two different things. Boat crossings and immigration are two different things. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 7, 2023 7:26:45 GMT
They are actually u-turning on immigration - now they are saying it is too high, seems the desire for freedom of movement has diminished as the issue has risen up the political agenda. Labour have always said immigration is to high and needs to be controlled, the Tories say the same but don't do it. Freedom of movement and immigration are two different things. Boat crossings and immigration are two different things. how do you control immigration numbers so that we get less with Freedom of Movement? |
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Post by sheepy on Oct 7, 2023 7:54:49 GMT
Labour have always said immigration is to high and needs to be controlled, the Tories say the same but don't do it. Freedom of movement and immigration are two different things. Boat crossings and immigration are two different things. how do you control immigration numbers so that we get less with Freedom of Movement? Followed with a lot of goalpost moving. Wait for it. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 7, 2023 8:04:38 GMT
Labour have always said immigration is to high and needs to be controlled, the Tories say the same but don't do it. Freedom of movement and immigration are two different things. Boat crossings and immigration are two different things. how do you control immigration numbers so that we get less with Freedom of Movement? We had more immigration last year than we did with FoM. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 10:25:36 GMT
Labour have always said immigration is to high and needs to be controlled, the Tories say the same but don't do it. Freedom of movement and immigration are two different things. Boat crossings and immigration are two different things. how do you control immigration numbers so that we get less with Freedom of Movement? Immigration is those permitted entry to work in the country from across the world. Freedom of movement was a reciprocal agreement within the EU that allowed any EU citizen to work and live in any EU country. Freedom of movement no longer exists in the UK. "British people strongly supported their own right to live and work in the EU, but tended to oppose the right of EU citizens to live and work in Britain". |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 10:32:18 GMT
how do you control immigration numbers so that we get less with Freedom of Movement? Followed with a lot of goalpost moving. Wait for it. It's very robotic. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 10:37:00 GMT
how do you control immigration numbers so that we get less with Freedom of Movement? We had more immigration last year than we did with FoM. And whoes fault is that? Whatever the UK attempts to do is thwarted by the virtual signalling arseholes. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 11:13:28 GMT
The apologists for this terrible government are getting fairly desparate
One poll offers a glimmer of light and they pounce on its findings
Meanwhile, most polls published since, show a very different story, as does Thursdays by election result
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