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Post by zanygame on Oct 1, 2023 13:03:13 GMT
The mind zone was not created because of right wing posters . That’s an absolute lie. Taliking of posts “Fox says something that should have got him a smack in the mouth.... Lefties scream GBH.” And the ones Om pointed out … “You know the one favoured on here to such an extent that the "Lefties" had to establish a Mind Zone where the arguments had to be greater than just "You stink of Poo poo giggle giggle. But just because Jack the Ripper raped and cut up women, doesn't make Fred West OK.” are in an class of nonsense in themselves . As for a Evans . “She said “think this feeds into the culture WAR a little bit, this minister for men argument. In my mind, I think there should be a minister for mental health” Do you see the difference between your quote and mine? She seems to think that there is a culture war and one if the things that might inflame it is a minister for men . Its out and out misandry . The Mind Zone was not established by lefties. It's Orac's baby. I believe the idea was suggested to Mags/Orac. Off the back of complaints that threads were being destroyed. But whatever. Fact is the only people who have bemoaned the Mind zone are from the right wing. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 1, 2023 13:12:54 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=34t21kpacnMOk found the actual discussion. It seems to be different to that which either of our versions said. I would say I disagree with Ava Evans (Santini) but still see no reason for the vile language Fox used other than to appeal to his audience. And without the vile put down the Politics live program is far more interesting and most would side against Evans views.
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 2, 2023 7:31:33 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=34t21kpacnMOk found the actual discussion. It seems to be different to that which either of our versions said. I would say I disagree with Ava Evans (Santini) but still see no reason for the vile language Fox used other than to appeal to his audience.And without the vile put down the Politics live program is far more interesting and most would side against Evans views. He says he's lost a lot of close male friends to suicide which is why he got so upset. He was also pretty drunk. His attack on Ms Evans was a bit unpleasant but I don't understand why the BBC has got so exercised about it. The funniest thing was when Nick Robinson and the loathsome greasy little worm Amyl Rajah harangued the boss of Talk TV on Today. They criticised Talk TV's "lack of impartiality" and their tolerance of "maverick presenters". This is a joke coming from the BBC who employed Jimmy Savile, Russell Brand and Rolf Harris. It was also on the BBC, I think, that Jo Brand said that she'd like to throw acid in the face of Nigel Farage and Miriam Margoles said she wished Boris had died of Covid. In neither case did these people apologise for their exceedingly unpleasant comments. At least Talk TV and Fox apologised - and Fox's comment was trivial compared to what's happened in the BBC. The BBC and its employees have no shame - just arrogance. And "Politics Live" is the most useless and biased politics program on the TV. Ofcom should investigate that, not Talk TV. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 2, 2023 9:58:18 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=34t21kpacnMOk found the actual discussion. It seems to be different to that which either of our versions said. I would say I disagree with Ava Evans (Santini) but still see no reason for the vile language Fox used other than to appeal to his audience.And without the vile put down the Politics live program is far more interesting and most would side against Evans views. He says he's lost a lot of close male friends to suicide which is why he got so upset. He was also pretty drunk. His attack on Ms Evans was a bit unpleasant but I don't understand why the BBC has got so exercised about it. The funniest thing was when Nick Robinson and the loathsome greasy little worm Amyl Rajah harangued the boss of Talk TV on Today. They criticised Talk TV's "lack of impartiality" and their tolerance of "maverick presenters". This is a joke coming from the BBC who employed Jimmy Savile, Russell Brand and Rolf Harris. It was also on the BBC, I think, that Jo Brand said that she'd like to throw acid in the face of Nigel Farage and Miriam Margoles said she wished Boris had died of Covid. In neither case did these people apologise for their exceedingly unpleasant comments. At least Talk TV and Fox apologised - and Fox's comment was trivial compared to what's happened in the BBC. The BBC and its employees have no shame - just arrogance. And "Politics Live" is the most useless and biased politics program on the TV. Ofcom should investigate that, not Talk TV. This is the most sensible response I've read on from a BG News supporter this subject. Thank you. The argument for me has never been about whether the BBC is better or worse. It was about the specific incident. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 2, 2023 12:08:25 GMT
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Post by bancroft on Oct 2, 2023 13:25:09 GMT
He says he's lost a lot of close male friends to suicide which is why he got so upset. He was also pretty drunk. His attack on Ms Evans was a bit unpleasant but I don't understand why the BBC has got so exercised about it. The funniest thing was when Nick Robinson and the loathsome greasy little worm Amyl Rajah harangued the boss of Talk TV on Today. They criticised Talk TV's "lack of impartiality" and their tolerance of "maverick presenters". This is a joke coming from the BBC who employed Jimmy Savile, Russell Brand and Rolf Harris. It was also on the BBC, I think, that Jo Brand said that she'd like to throw acid in the face of Nigel Farage and Miriam Margoles said she wished Boris had died of Covid. In neither case did these people apologise for their exceedingly unpleasant comments. At least Talk TV and Fox apologised - and Fox's comment was trivial compared to what's happened in the BBC. The BBC and its employees have no shame - just arrogance. And "Politics Live" is the most useless and biased politics program on the TV. Ofcom should investigate that, not Talk TV. GB News are competitors to the BBC and have been growing their audience, that might be why they are so happy to attack GB News presenters. I state again Fox was unprofessional. Brand and Margoles are comedians or have comedic parts in shows, not political commentators yet don't notice these type of remarks now almost as though they have been told that is not acceptable or the BBC might be seeing the winds of change blow through Europe too. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 2, 2023 14:51:46 GMT
The mind zone was not created because of right wing posters . That’s an absolute lie. Taliking of posts “Fox says something that should have got him a smack in the mouth.... Lefties scream GBH.” And the ones Om pointed out … “You know the one favoured on here to such an extent that the "Lefties" had to establish a Mind Zone where the arguments had to be greater than just "You stink of Poo poo giggle giggle. But just because Jack the Ripper raped and cut up women, doesn't make Fred West OK.” are in an class of nonsense in themselves . As for a Evans . “She said “think this feeds into the culture WAR a little bit, this minister for men argument. In my mind, I think there should be a minister for mental health” Do you see the difference between your quote and mine? She seems to think that there is a culture war and one if the things that might inflame it is a minister for men . Its out and out misandry . The Mind Zone was not established by lefties. It's Orac's baby. Thank you for confirming thst Zanys claim ( quote) “ You know the one favoured on here to such an extent that the "Lefties" had to establish a Mind Zone where the arguments had to be greater than just "You stink of Poo poo giggle giggle.“ was false . Which makes it both infantile and false at the same time . |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 2, 2023 15:05:01 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=34t21kpacnMOk found the actual discussion. It seems to be different to that which either of our versions said. I would say I disagree with Ava Evans (Santini) but still see no reason for the vile language Fox used other than to appeal to his audience. And without the vile put down the Politics live program is far more interesting and most would side against Evans views. 1. Unless you are deaf , you can clearly hear her say “ culture WAR” and not just culture . I don’t believe that you are deaf. 2. YouTube ‘ transcripts ‘ are computer generated and miss or miss spell words so often that they are unreliable . I dint believe that you are ignorant of this . So what we have is you repeatedly refusing to admit ( including misquoting) to something that you clearly knew was true .ie dishonest . I repeat .You have not only denied but ignored clear misandry from Evans yet have got both your knickers and vest in a twist over an inappropriate personal comment by Fox. Which pretty much sums up leftie woke juvenile mentality. Thank you |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 2, 2023 15:12:36 GMT
This is a little bit suspicious. If it was known that Saville was a predatory Pedo by the people who advised Thatcher why did those people not press for Saville to be prosecuted? Apparently she was told not to knight him because he was a “ strange and complex man “. It doesn’t add up . I suspect that Saville was supplying child victims for important people and those important people kept Thatcher in the dark about Saville . |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 2, 2023 15:13:46 GMT
This is a little bit suspicious. If it was known that Saville was a predatory Pedo by the people who advised Thatcher why did those people not press for Saville to be prosecuted? Apparently she was told not to knight him because he was a “ strange and complex man “. It doesn’t add up . I suspect that Saville was supplying child victims for important people and those important people kept Thatcher in the dark about Saville . ''with advisers repeatedly having to warn the former Prime Minister against bestowing the accolade on Savile four times.'' |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 2, 2023 15:18:10 GMT
This is a little bit suspicious. If it was known that Saville was a predatory Pedo by the people who advised Thatcher why did those people not press for Saville to be prosecuted? Apparently she was told not to knight him because he was a “ strange and complex man “. It doesn’t add up . I suspect that Saville was supplying child victims for important people and those important people kept Thatcher in the dark about Saville . ''with advisers repeatedly having to warn the former Prime Minister against bestowing the accolade on Savile four times.'' Read your own post . They advised her because he was a “strange and complex man,”. You are trying to make 2+2 = 5. Show me official records that show Thatcher was warned Saville was a paedophile . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 2, 2023 15:23:26 GMT
This is a little bit suspicious. If it was known that Saville was a predatory Pedo by the people who advised Thatcher why did those people not press for Saville to be prosecuted? Apparently she was told not to knight him because he was a “ strange and complex man “. It doesn’t add up . I suspect that Saville was supplying child victims for important people and those important people kept Thatcher in the dark about Saville. I think within the industry certainly within the BBC the fact that Saville was a kiddy fiddler was an open secret. So many people over the years have said everyone knew but no one spoke about it. Apparently this is why the BBC kept him well away from the annual Children in Need telethon. I mean think about it, Sir Jimmy Saville should have been the number 1 BBC personality to front Children in Need, but he was never allowed anywhere near it. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 2, 2023 16:11:02 GMT
This is a little bit suspicious. If it was known that Saville was a predatory Pedo by the people who advised Thatcher why did those people not press for Saville to be prosecuted? Apparently she was told not to knight him because he was a “ strange and complex man “. It doesn’t add up . I suspect that Saville was supplying child victims for important people and those important people kept Thatcher in the dark about Saville. I think within the industry certainly within the BBC the fact that Saville was a kiddy fiddler was an open secret. So many people over the years have said everyone knew but no one spoke about it. Apparently this is why the BBC kept him well away from the annual Children in Need telethon. I mean think about it, Sir Jimmy Saville should have been the number 1 BBC personality to front Children in Need, but he was never allowed anywhere near it. Not only did the arsehole have a key to the door at Stoke Mandival he had a key to the morgue the perverted bastard. But Starmer fixed it for him.. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 2, 2023 19:23:29 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on Oct 2, 2023 21:49:24 GMT
This is a little bit suspicious. If it was known that Saville was a predatory Pedo by the people who advised Thatcher why did those people not press for Saville to be prosecuted? Apparently she was told not to knight him because he was a “ strange and complex man “. It doesn’t add up . I suspect that Saville was supplying child victims for important people and those important people kept Thatcher in the dark about Saville. I think within the industry certainly within the BBC the fact that Saville was a kiddy fiddler was an open secret. So many people over the years have said everyone knew but no one spoke about it. Apparently this is why the BBC kept him well away from the annual Children in Need telethon. I mean think about it, Sir Jimmy Saville should have been the number 1 BBC personality to front Children in Need, but he was never allowed anywhere near it. He was too busy fundraising for the Conservative Party, Red. |
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