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Post by Pacifico on Oct 2, 2023 7:42:07 GMT
thats a bad thing then right? surely it should be equal to or higher? Er - no. The retention (or turnover rate) in the NHS is 12% - the average for the UK economy is 15%, so there must be something about the NHS that is better than the average employer in the UK. But we keep coming back to the basic issue - there is no problem recruiting people to start their training and if you dont wish to train people then there is no problem importing trained people. So why would we need to pay more? |
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Post by thomas on Oct 2, 2023 8:14:22 GMT
thats a bad thing then right? surely it should be equal to or higher? Er - no. The retention (or turnover rate) in the NHS is 12% - the average for the UK economy is 15%, so there must be something about the NHS that is better than the average employer in the UK. But we keep coming back to the basic issue - there is no problem recruiting people to start their training and if you dont wish to train people then there is no problem importing trained people. So why would we need to pay more? eh?
so the average in the uk economy is they are retaining 15 people in a 100 , while the english nhs is only retaining 12 people in a 100? Thats worse then isnt if for the english nhs?
your own figures show the opposite is true surely?
no one is claiming theri is. The claim is dropout from training , not recruitment to start training.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 2, 2023 12:33:45 GMT
so the average in the uk economy is they are retaining 15 people in a 100 , while the english nhs is only retaining 12 people in a 100? Thats worse then isnt if for the english nhs? No its the other way round - the average number of people who leave a job each year is 15% - in the NHS its only 12%. Perhaps the gold plated pension has something to do with it?. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 2, 2023 13:05:09 GMT
The biggest issue with staff retention in the NHS is burnout.
It's a very stressful environment.
I met a national trust ranger in Scotland who used to work in the NHS, she wouldn't go back, too stressful.
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Post by thomas on Oct 3, 2023 6:59:54 GMT
so the average in the uk economy is they are retaining 15 people in a 100 , while the english nhs is only retaining 12 people in a 100? Thats worse then isnt if for the english nhs? No its the other way round - the average number of people who leave a job each year is 15% - in the NHS its only 12%. Perhaps the gold plated pension has something to do with it?. thats not what you said sorry pacifico.
you said this...
retention rate means keeping hold of someone . which you claimed was lower than the average in the uk economy at large. That means the nhs is holding onto less people. Perhaps you made a mistake with your grammar and meant the retention rate in the nhs was higher , not lower.
you even put a figure on it...
using the word retention once again , your own figures show the nhs is worse. holding onto only 12 % is worse than 15 %.
like i said , perhaps you are getting mixed up.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 3, 2023 7:11:24 GMT
OK - you obviously dont understand so I'm giving up
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Post by thomas on Oct 4, 2023 6:56:32 GMT
OK - you obviously dont understand so I'm giving up well im a humble man , with a basic comprehensive education . My scottish abacus tells me 15 is a bigger number than 12. So the uk economy retains more people than the english nhs according to your very own figures.
i knew the tories had fucked english education somewhat , i just never knew how bad....
pacifico...
thomas replies...
pacifico...
Thomas...
WTF? ??
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