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Post by sheepy on Sept 27, 2023 18:08:52 GMT
In favour? There is undoubtedly 'pollution' but what it is and to what level is moot. I do repeat however that if a farm here polluted waterways we would not take his farm off the owner and his family, would we? I am not so sure nowadays. There are arguments that the land is wanted for development of a planned supercity and that is certainly a proposal. The farms need only comply with the regulations to avoid any such sanctions. Absolutely Monte, the regulations are all for the greater good, or face the sanctions.
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Post by Montegriffo on Sept 27, 2023 18:33:13 GMT
The farms need only comply with the regulations to avoid any such sanctions. Absolutely Monte, the regulations are all for the greater good, or face the sanctions. The regulations are for the good of the environment so you are correct.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 27, 2023 19:15:01 GMT
Four legs good. Two legs bad. Or is it now the other way round?
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Post by sheepy on Sept 27, 2023 20:04:22 GMT
Absolutely Monte, the regulations are all for the greater good, or face the sanctions. The regulations are for the good of the environment so you are correct. The neo liberal mind never fails to amaze monte.
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Post by Orac on Sept 27, 2023 20:25:41 GMT
The magic word is 'stakeholders'. These are the imaginary people often used as a ruse to remove real people's rights
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2023 7:35:48 GMT
Probably only yourself and those who wish to exaggerate the situation.
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2023 7:44:21 GMT
So you are in favour of the Netherland's regulations on nitrogen pollution? In favour? There is undoubtedly 'pollution' but what it is and to what level is moot. I do repeat however that if a farm here polluted waterways we would not take his farm off the owner and his family, would we? I am not so sure nowadays. There are arguments that the land is wanted for development of a planned supercity and that is certainly a proposal. __"River pollution from farm 19 JUL 2021 Nitrates in Water a Problem says EPA by Admin | posted in: News | 0 __"The Irish EPA Water Quality report published recently, accesses the quality of Ireland’s water table as well as rivers, lakes and estuary waters and found they continue to be under pressure from agriculture or other human activities. According to the report, high levels of nitrates are now being detected in water supplies particularly in the south of Ireland. High levels of nutrients, like nitrogen and phosphorus pose a serious threat to water quality. High levels of nitrate in well water often result from proximity to intensive farms, overuse of chemical fertilizers, or improper disposal of farm animal waste. Many well known rivers such as the River Bandon, River Lee, River Blackwater, River Suir, River Nore, River Barrow, River Deel, River Slaney, River Maigue have nitrogen levels that pose a significant problem for the marine environments they flow into."__ perfectwater.ie/nitrates-in-water-a-problem-says-epa/
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2023 8:01:57 GMT
__"Nitrate Vulnerable Zones (NVZs) are areas designated as being at risk from agricultural nitrate pollution. They include about 55% of land in England.
The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) reviews NVZs every 4 years to account for changes in nitrate concentrations. The last review was in December 2020. It did not find substantial changes in the patterns of nitrate pollution in England, so the areas designated as NVZs remain the same for 2021 to 2024. www.gov.uk/government/collections/nitrate-vulnerable-zones
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Post by Vinny on Sept 28, 2023 8:03:27 GMT
Without farming we'd have famines.
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Post by see2 on Sept 28, 2023 8:06:04 GMT
Without farming we'd have famines. That is why farmers and governments need to take note on just how farming is done. And make improvements wherever possible.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 28, 2023 8:07:01 GMT
New Zealand and Australia have made great progress in that respect.
We could learn a lot from Cairns group nations.
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Post by Orac on Sept 28, 2023 8:13:00 GMT
Without farming we'd have famines. That is why farmers and governments need to take note on just how farming is done. And make improvements wherever possible. Thanks fort the advice. I hope the farmers on the channel are taking notes
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