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Post by sandypine on Sept 27, 2023 10:08:20 GMT
Overall, we rate the Climate Depot a strong Pseudoscience source based on the promotion of human-influenced climate denialism propaganda and the use of poor sources who have failed numerous fact checks. The Climate Depot is owned and published through CFACT, which is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that is mostly funded through the Donor’s Trust. The purpose of the Donor’s Trust Fund is to “safeguard the intent of libertarian and conservative donors.” In other words, it allows anti-climate change advocates to donate anonymously. In the past, CFACT received over $500,000 from Exxon-Mobil. mediabiasfactcheck.com/climate-depot/It always is telling when a source is fact checked and what is actually said is left unaddressed. Once again if a source receives funds from oil companies the science and all who sail with her are targeted as corrupt. When science receives funding from the UN it is above reproach. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 27, 2023 10:10:27 GMT
That's a point. Sandy, How do you feel about the thread being moved? Mmmm. Not sure. I thought it was more a global warming type thread and political action. To my mind conspiracy theories are based on little or no evidence. There is tons of evidence as regards what is happening I would agree why is a moot point. I am likely derailing your thread. I will keep that danger in mind and open a new thread if necessary |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 27, 2023 10:12:16 GMT
Mmmm. Not sure. I thought it was more a global warming type thread and political action. To my mind conspiracy theories are based on little or no evidence. There is tons of evidence as regards what is happening I would agree why is a moot point. There is very little reliable evidence which is why you had to link to a fossil fuel industry funded pseudo-science website to start your conspiracy theory thread. Mmm I just linked to a lecture, there is much evidence that agriculture is being seriously curtailed in the Netherlands. I suppose the conspiracy may be why it is happening but then that could apply to anything. Farming in the US is being targeted for change in a kind of non democratic way. EDIT Of course I could link to other sources but 'reputable' sources do not report her. That may be obvious to you but then it is equally obvious to others. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Sept 27, 2023 10:13:22 GMT
Overall, we rate the Climate Depot a strong Pseudoscience source based on the promotion of human-influenced climate denialism propaganda and the use of poor sources who have failed numerous fact checks. The Climate Depot is owned and published through CFACT, which is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that is mostly funded through the Donor’s Trust. The purpose of the Donor’s Trust Fund is to “safeguard the intent of libertarian and conservative donors.” In other words, it allows anti-climate change advocates to donate anonymously. In the past, CFACT received over $500,000 from Exxon-Mobil. mediabiasfactcheck.com/climate-depot/It always is telling when a source is fact checked and what is actually said is left unaddressed. Once again if a source receives funds from oil companies the science and all who sail with her are targeted as corrupt. When science receives funding from the UN it is above reproach. It's known as ''vested interests'' and makes research unreliable at best and outright lies at worst. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 27, 2023 10:16:13 GMT
The UN has a vested interest in the authority of national governments being re-assigned to itself. That's just on the surface, goodness only knows what goes on in the background with these people.
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Post by sandypine on Sept 27, 2023 10:16:29 GMT
It always is telling when a source is fact checked and what is actually said is left unaddressed. Once again if a source receives funds from oil companies the science and all who sail with her are targeted as corrupt. When science receives funding from the UN it is above reproach. It's known as ''vested interests'' and makes research unreliable at best and outright lies at worst. And science receiving funds from the UN is very much a 'vested interest' and there are a fair few instances where research is unreliable and conclusions unreliable, which of course is the point of having other views. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 27, 2023 10:18:20 GMT
Not sure what you are driving at here. Do you feel that , if i can't provide you with a list of those verified as responsible, then agriculture isn't being closed down and cash isn't being gradually abolished? More or less, yes.
Agriculture of various sorts may be closing down in various places, just as it is expanding elsewhere. Cash is a separate discussion, but if you are claiming there is a covert operation in place to do either or both then something more than mere supposition is necessary.
I've had this same argument many times with monocausalists who claimed that immigration into the UK was a Jewish plot but were unable to provide any names, dates or places to support their theory.
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Post by Orac on Sept 27, 2023 10:24:37 GMT
Dan, I'm going to start a new thread in mind zone.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 14:00:43 GMT
Fair enough if we are going into conspiracy mode, control the money supply, control the food supply, control the planet and everybody on it. We've all signed up for it, unwittingly, by having digital bank accounts and phones. There's no going back. I'm not eating insects, though. There's still steak, pork and chicken in the farm shop. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Sept 27, 2023 14:21:38 GMT
Fair enough if we are going into conspiracy mode, control the money supply, control the food supply, control the planet and everybody on it. We've all signed up for it, unwittingly, by having digital bank accounts and phones. There's no going back. I'm not eating insects, though. There's still steak, pork and chicken in the farm shop. You won't even know you are doing it. Instead of horsemeat your Findus lasagne will contain 20% locust and you won't be able to tell. |
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Post by see2 on Sept 27, 2023 14:22:57 GMT
sandypine;
__"No. Both the EU and the Dutch government agree that cow burps are deemed the biggest driver of climate change."__
But farmers unintentionally poisoning the waters is a big part of the problem in the Netherlands.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 14:24:36 GMT
We've all signed up for it, unwittingly, by having digital bank accounts and phones. There's no going back. I'm not eating insects, though. There's still steak, pork and chicken in the farm shop. You won't even know you are doing it. Instead of horsemeat your Findus lasagne will contain 20% locust and you won't be able to tell. Yes, I will. It will say "May contain locusts" on the packet.  So I will leave it on the shelf. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 27, 2023 14:26:36 GMT
Fair enough if we are going into conspiracy mode, control the money supply, control the food supply, control the planet and everybody on it. We've all signed up for it, unwittingly, by having digital bank accounts and phones. There's no going back. I'm not eating insects, though. There's still steak, pork and chicken in the farm shop. At the moment. With the Netherlands being slowly strangled in terms of production and the US farms being bought up by Mr Insect Gates we may find that meat will be beyond our reach in terms of price and of course if they get the digital currency they can stop you buying it. I may be wrong but I believe the EU has already approved insect pulp or similar as a food additive. Not called pulped crickets of course something else. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 27, 2023 14:27:38 GMT
A good reason not to eat fingus burgers.
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Post by sandypine on Sept 27, 2023 14:33:41 GMT
sandypine; __"No. Both the EU and the Dutch government agree that cow burps are deemed the biggest driver of climate change."__ But farmers unintentionally poisoning the waters is a big part of the problem in the Netherlands. That may be true to some degree but unintentionally poisoning waterways does not normally lead to compulsory expropriation of one's property. What usually happens is the methods that result in that are regulated. |
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