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Post by piglet on Sept 24, 2023 11:42:13 GMT
With the party conferences coming up the Tories will take a leap to the right over immigration, tax, the Eu etc, dont be fooled. If they win it will be more of the same nonsense weve had for the last 13 years. The Theresa May way of doing things, is the strongest suit in the party.
There was a thing on tv about how proper Tories just wont vote rather than vote for something they dont believe in, who can blame them, im not voting for a blagger, a liar, manipulator, two faced is under playing it. Sunak needs to go, no leadership there, no long term vision.
Oh, lets see what he says at the conference in terms of a vision, like last time, 2019, it will all be LIES. Ive often wondered, in an experimental way, what would happen if socialism, the left, were unhindered in implementing their stuff. If you think it through, prorect into the future, its all nonsense. Consequences are not a liberal ability, that even when the consequences of their folly arrives, its explained away.
The left are truly nuts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 13:16:04 GMT
Just remember the reasons he was not at the last Conservative party conference. It tells a story.
He was too busy scheming, with his ready4rishi internet domain all cranked up and ready to go. What a backstabber.
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Post by Bentley on Sept 25, 2023 15:13:07 GMT
The Tories led us out of the EU then couldn’t decide what to do .
Sunak is a globalist. He will circle around the EU and join whatever he can get away with .
The migrants won’t stop. Somehow the Tories have managed to be running the country while complaining about how the country is run .
Quite a feat .
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 25, 2023 15:20:54 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 25, 2023 17:41:29 GMT
The above criticisms of Sunak and the Tories are fair comment. Over the past few years the government have missed opportunities the biggest one being they havent make a success of Brexit and that's because Mrs May, Boris and Sunak are all pro EU. The biggest problem the modern conservative party have is the fact that it is no longer a centre right Conservative party. There was the slightest glimmer of hope with Truss, but pro EU globalists within the party soon had her out and their man in number 10.
I don't like Sunak, I didn't vote for him, no one voted for him. But as we draw closer to the election I'm increasingly thinking to myself that even though I don't like Sunak, how better or worse will it be with a Labour government, and with the best will in the world I cant imagine how a pro EU, pro immigrant left wing Labour government with a socialist human rights lawyer as prime minister could possibly be an improvement on this government.
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Post by om15 on Sept 25, 2023 18:17:25 GMT
That old chap is the conundrum. To vote in a shower of left wing hysterical marxist anti semite lunatics because the Tories are mildly left wing doesn't make sense, but the Tories deserve a drubbing, so what do we do?
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Post by jonksy on Sept 25, 2023 18:24:35 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Sept 25, 2023 18:27:28 GMT
That old chap is the conundrum. To vote in a shower of left wing hysterical marxist anti semite lunatics because the Tories are mildly left wing doesn't make sense, but the Tories deserve a drubbing, so what do we do?Thats the 64 million dollar question mate. We are down to electing the lesser wankers who infest the HOC. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 25, 2023 18:32:02 GMT
That old chap is the conundrum. To vote in a shower of left wing hysterical marxist anti semite lunatics because the Tories are mildly left wing doesn't make sense, but the Tories deserve a drubbing, so what do we do?Thats the 64 million dollar question mate. We are down to electing the lesser wankers who infest the HOC. I was smiling earlier, everyone who says they are voting without exception, while it might be so they can get one over on others or not, know it is going to be a complete con either way. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 25, 2023 18:37:16 GMT
Thats the 64 million dollar question mate. We are down to electing the lesser wankers who infest the HOC. I was smiling earlier, everyone who says they are voting without exception, while it might so they can get one over on others or not, know it is going to be a complete con either way. The choices we have mate are abysmal. And even if a new party came along they would be constantly hounded and bad mouthed by our excuse for a media. |
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Post by dappy on Sept 25, 2023 18:58:06 GMT
The above criticisms of Sunak and the Tories are fair comment. Over the past few years the government have missed opportunities the biggest one being they havent make a success of Brexit and that's because Mrs May, Boris and Sunak are all pro EU. The biggest problem the modern conservative party have is the fact that it is no longer a centre right Conservative party. There was the slightest glimmer of hope with Truss, but pro EU globalists within the party soon had her out and their man in number 10. I don't like Sunak, I didn't vote for him, no one voted for him. But as we draw closer to the election I'm increasingly thinking to myself that even though I don't like Sunak, how better or worse will it be with a Labour government, and with the best will in the world I cant imagine how a pro EU, pro immigrant left wing Labour government with a socialist human rights lawyer as prime minister could possibly be an improvement on this government. What should they have done specifically to “make a success of Brexit”? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 25, 2023 19:14:41 GMT
The above criticisms of Sunak and the Tories are fair comment. Over the past few years the government have missed opportunities the biggest one being they havent make a success of Brexit and that's because Mrs May, Boris and Sunak are all pro EU. The biggest problem the modern conservative party have is the fact that it is no longer a centre right Conservative party. There was the slightest glimmer of hope with Truss, but pro EU globalists within the party soon had her out and their man in number 10. I don't like Sunak, I didn't vote for him, no one voted for him. But as we draw closer to the election I'm increasingly thinking to myself that even though I don't like Sunak, how better or worse will it be with a Labour government, and with the best will in the world I cant imagine how a pro EU, pro immigrant left wing Labour government with a socialist human rights lawyer as prime minister could possibly be an improvement on this government. What should they have done specifically to “make a success of Brexit”? Repeal the 2018 Retained EU law Act. |
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Post by dappy on Sept 25, 2023 19:21:08 GMT
What would that achieve?
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Post by patman post on Sept 25, 2023 19:23:17 GMT
I was smiling earlier, everyone who says they are voting without exception, while it might so they can get one over on others or not, know it is going to be a complete con either way. The choices we have mate are abysmal. And even if a new party came along they would be constantly hounded and bad mouthed by our excuse for a media. If you’re suggesting social media is urgently a useful substitute, you’re crazy. However, if you’re suggesting mainstream news media doesn’t chime with your views, why not campaign and work for alternatives? But I should point out, people pay to read what’s recorded, and advertisers also support them. If listeners, readers and viewers thought they were being conned, they could always pay for and get their news from alternative sources… |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 25, 2023 19:24:43 GMT
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