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Post by jonksy on Sept 24, 2023 8:28:04 GMT
On another forum a left leaning poster from Cornwall admitted he had applied to be a client of some polling company . No one down here ever "applied" to take part in any of these polls, so far as I know. Self selecting surveys (YouGov, and the like) may be handy for marketing purposes, but they're not much use for anything else. I believe the likes of Gallup were steered by postcode/street. Within that, there must've been huge variation, anyway. Ask me for an opinion on something, and you'll get a mix of economic conservatism and social liberality. Ask my next door neighbour, and you'll get pure thatcherism. Across the road lives the last of the Corbynistas, and there's another neighbour who'd happily live under a dictatorship - so long as it was run by farage. One postcode - every opinion on the scale. Polls are not to be trusted. Those who are on the left should have learnt that lesson by now. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Sept 24, 2023 9:10:29 GMT
Is the UK broken?
Just got Sergeant Eldest Son over for his weekly full English.
This week's tale of policing the mean streets of Sheffield is a doozy..
On Tuesday, they ended the activities of an amateur DENTIST.
Some old boy had set himself up (in his garage!) with the tools for fillings, extractions, and cosmetic work - including the use of general anaesthetics. (Nitrous Oxide - very crude and dangerous..)
He's been happily servicing the teeth of his area for many months, it seems - and has left a number of complainants in a bit of a state. (The police were called in after the local NHS trust were alerted to his operation.)
He's also kitted himself out with a laser for tattoo removal - so besides destroying people's teeth, he could potentially branch out into offering permanent scarring.
He's been charged with various offenses, including fraud, carrying out unlicensed surgical procedures, illegal administering of anaesthetics.. It's a long list.
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Post by zanygame on Sept 24, 2023 9:16:01 GMT
Is the UK broken? Just got Sergeant Eldest Son over for his weekly full English. This week's tale of policing the mean streets of Sheffield is a doozy.. On Tuesday, they ended the activities of an amateur DENTIST. Some old boy had set himself up (in his garage!) with the tools for fillings, extractions, and cosmetic work - including the use of general anaesthetics. (Nitrous Oxide - very crude and dangerous..) He's been happily servicing the teeth of his area for many months, it seems - and has left a number of complainants in a bit of a state. (The police were called in after the local NHS trust were alerted to his operation.) He's also kitted himself out with a laser for tattoo removal - so besides destroying people's teeth, he could potentially branch out into offering permanent scarring. He's been charged with various offenses, including fraud, carrying out unlicensed surgical procedures, illegal administering of anaesthetics.. It's a long list. Welcome to UK paired with the banana republic |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 24, 2023 9:17:27 GMT
Is the UK broken? Just got Sergeant Eldest Son over for his weekly full English. This week's tale of policing the mean streets of Sheffield is a doozy.. On Tuesday, they ended the activities of an amateur DENTIST. Some old boy had set himself up (in his garage!) with the tools for fillings, extractions, and cosmetic work - including the use of general anaesthetics. (Nitrous Oxide - very crude and dangerous..) He's been happily servicing the teeth of his area for many months, it seems - and has left a number of complainants in a bit of a state. (The police were called in after the local NHS trust were alerted to his operation.) He's also kitted himself out with a laser for tattoo removal - so besides destroying people's teeth, he could potentially branch out into offering permanent scarring. He's been charged with various offenses, including fraud, carrying out unlicensed surgical procedures, illegal administering of anaesthetics.. It's a long list. But this is what happens when dentists were allowed to go it alone. An NHS dentist now are as rare as hens teth. No pun intended.. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 24, 2023 9:19:44 GMT
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Post by walterpaisley on Sept 24, 2023 9:49:42 GMT
Like I said - "the mean streets of Sheffield".
Sergeant Eldest Son will have been the Desk Sergeant* responsible for detaining and charging a in a number of these cases, I'm sure.
(* After a few years as a plod, SES is coming to the end of a period as Desk Sergeant. It's seen as a good way of getting a wide oversight into chargeable offenses of every sort, prior to beginning his elevation to Detective Constable - the training for which begins in October.)
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Post by Montegriffo on Sept 24, 2023 11:11:03 GMT
Like I said - "the mean streets of Sheffield". Sergeant Eldest Son will have been the Desk Sergeant* responsible for detaining and charging a in a number of these cases, I'm sure. (* After a few years as a plod, SES is coming to the end of a period as Desk Sergeant. It's seen as a good way of getting a wide oversight into chargeable offenses of every sort, prior to beginning his elevation to Detective Constable - the training for which begins in October.) How has having a son in the force changed your opinion of the police? Was he always destined to be a copper? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 11:56:08 GMT
So here we are, at the start of what very well may be the start of the last conference season before the next general election.
With the Tories in virtualy open civil war, Mr U-Turn Sunak angering many within the Parliamentary Party on reneging on climate and green policies, angering other Tory MPs on rumours of derailing parts of HS2, attracting criticism from Boris Johnson ( still waiting for the great come-back ), and angering major donors, one of which has pulled the plug on support for the Tories [ Billionaire John Caudwell ].
Meanwhile the Lib Dems go into their conference on the back of some spectacular By Election wins against the Tories, confident of taking more Southern seats; Labour will go into their conference, feeling confident but cautious with the average poll lead still at 17%.
If there is no major change to average polling in the aftermath of the conference season, you can pretty much prepare for the end of what will be 14 years of Tory government.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 11:56:43 GMT
So here we are, at the start of what very well may be the last conference season before the next general election. With the Tories in virtualy open civil war, Mr U-Turn Sunak angering many within the Parliamentary Party on reneging on climate and green policies, angering other Tory MPs on rumours of derailing parts of HS2, attracting criticism from Boris Johnson ( still waiting for the great come-back ), and angering major donors, one of which has pulled the plug on support for the Tories [ Billionaire John Caudwell ]. Meanwhile the Lib Dems go into their conference on the back of some spectacular By Election wins against the Tories, confident of taking more Southern seats; Labour will go into their conference, feeling confident but cautious with the average poll lead still at 17%. If there is no major change to average polling in the aftermath of the conference season, you can pretty much prepare for the end of what will be 14 years of Tory government. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Sept 24, 2023 12:44:58 GMT
How has having a son in the force changed your opinion of the police? Not much at all, really. I'd always seen them as the Goodies,but now, beyond that, I also see the vast majority of them as perfectly decent, completely ordinary people doing a job most folk would run a mile from. Was he always destined to be a copper? Not at all. From his late mum's influence (a director of adult care), he was set on becoming a psychologist in the mental health services. Just a couple of months into his degree, however, he switched to Criminology - and from there he was invited into the Police Service at a final year recruitment fair. He's a born copper, as it turns out. Calm, fair, methodical, and with enough of a sense of humour to get through everything the job throws at him (he's already received a Chief Constable's commendation, too!) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 13:12:34 GMT
Polling organisations who wish to be reputable always ask a balanced cross section of voters, and over time they have all learned how best to do this in order to remain relevant and reputable. Polling today in the UK is never 100% accurate, but it is close to the truth. Polling consists of the Pollsters approaching the public with a few introductory questions, and if the answers to the introductory questions are not what they are looking for, they do not participate in the poll. This means that a Poll is never conducted amongst 100% Conservative voting or 100% Labour voting participants, but rather balanced voting participaters, usually reflecting the voting intentions of the previous general election. You people are not For Real, you do not represent what most people think, almost 100% of all reputable scientists agree that there is a problem caused by mankind, but you people do not. Sorry, but you are so irrelevant and so out of touch that its almost not worth debating with you, you are the minority, and those that believe there is no climate crisis will have minimal effect on next years general election. You have been indoctrinated to the point where you are so irrelevant and so out of touch that its almost not worth debating with you.
You support Beer Korma when he says one thing and still support him when he says the exact opposite. That is not a reasoned approach. It is dogma.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 14:02:45 GMT
Like I said - "the mean streets of Sheffield". Sergeant Eldest Son will have been the Desk Sergeant* responsible for detaining and charging a in a number of these cases, I'm sure. (* After a few years as a plod, SES is coming to the end of a period as Desk Sergeant. It's seen as a good way of getting a wide oversight into chargeable offenses of every sort, prior to beginning his elevation to Detective Constable - the training for which begins in October.) I'm sure you don't mean to say that. Uniform Sergeant to detective constable is a demotion in rank. Detective Sergeant is, of course, the same rank. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Sept 24, 2023 14:20:29 GMT
Uniform Sergeant to detective constable is a demotion in rank. Detective Sergeant is, of course, the same rank. He will be, for the first few months, effectively a trainee. It's the current rank of "Sergeant" that's the anomaly - it's been a method of giving him hands on experience of the whole range of crimes (and the paperwork involved..) - all in one place. This is an "imaginative" way that's been found by the bosses to "fast track" his move from uniform branch to investigations. As a DC, he won't be "demoted" - as a PS, he's been given a "paper promotion" for a limited period. I doubt it'll be too long before he's a DS, though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 14:28:33 GMT
Oh, I see, he's been a temporary or acting sergeant. Good luck to him.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 24, 2023 14:37:43 GMT
Uniform Sergeant to detective constable is a demotion in rank. Detective Sergeant is, of course, the same rank. He will be, for the first few months, effectively a trainee. It's the current rank of "Sergeant" that's the anomaly - it's been a method of giving him hands on experience of the whole range of crimes (and the paperwork involved..) - all in one place. This is an "imaginative" way that's been found by the bosses to "fast track" his move from uniform branch to investigations. As a DC, he won't be "demoted" - as a PS, he's been given a "paper promotion" for a limited period. I doubt it'll be too long before he's a DS, though.
Ok, so he's an acting sergeant rather than a substantive. And now he's going down the CID route.
Good luck to him. These days CID is seen by many as a poisoned chalice.
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