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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 1, 2023 17:45:24 GMT
He realised he couldn't keep sitting on the sidelines saying nothing, when they have to produce a manifesto and campaign trails for a GE, he has to come up with something on paper.
He's been hit with the ULEZ and the 20mph zones, that are going down like a lead balloon, the voters are now thinking is this a taste of things to come with a Labour government, and my answer to them would be a resounding ......... YES.
fully agree. The policy of sitting on his hands inevitably had to end sometime. People want to know what they are voting for.
I think starmer is in trouble myself. His polling lead has always been seen as soft , and three different polsters are talking about a drop in labour support.
It could be an interesting week ahead. If he wins rutherglen , which is expected , its one small step forward. If he doesnt , no amount of spin is going to polish that turd.
Absolutely, rutherglen needs to be a win, if it's not they know they are in trouble, he's got some explaining to do, the problem he's always had when he talks no one listens, he just finds it impossible to connect with the general public, he always comes across as a obnoxious pompous pillock, he really has a knack of rubbing people up the wrong way. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 1, 2023 17:45:30 GMT
Completely pointless crap, only one poll will count, that is on the day when voting is done and dusted. Yes Polls only give an indication of what a small percentage of the electorate may vote now they could just as easily change their minds closer to the GE, as they say a week is a long time in politics Blind hope is not a good thing. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 2, 2023 8:05:39 GMT
Most of the European rail network was rebuilt during the 1950's, cant think why... Was it? Want to back up that claim? Most of ours was removed in the 1960's. Meanwhile most high speed rail links in Europe were built in the 1980's. It wasn't until the 1990's that these were linked between countries with intra-national corridors. We of course 33 years later are still arguing about whether to do it inside the UK. Lets not be silly ffs. The European rail network was largely rebuilt during the 1950's due to the fact that goods yards, railway tracks, bridges and tunnels are strategically important and obvious targets. However, in the UK our Victorian rail infrastructure was for the most part undamaged which is why unlike Europe, we still have Victorian bridges and tunnels. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 2, 2023 8:10:01 GMT
Most of the European rail network was rebuilt during the 1950's, cant think why... Wonder why that was - there was nothing wrong with the Bielefeld viaduct...  Indeed, didn't Barnes Wallace design the bomb that eventually destroyed the Bielefeld viaduct? |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 2, 2023 8:15:47 GMT
Wonder why that was - there was nothing wrong with the Bielefeld viaduct... Indeed, didn't Barnes Wallace design the bomb that eventually destroyed the Bielefeld viaduct? Yep the earthquake bomb. A clever man was Wallace. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 2, 2023 8:28:37 GMT
Indeed, didn't Barnes Wallace design the bomb that eventually destroyed the Bielefeld viaduct? Yep the earthquake bomb. A clever man was Wallace. Yes that's it, the earthquake bomb. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 2, 2023 9:40:26 GMT
Was it? Want to back up that claim? Most of ours was removed in the 1960's. Meanwhile most high speed rail links in Europe were built in the 1980's. It wasn't until the 1990's that these were linked between countries with intra-national corridors. We of course 33 years later are still arguing about whether to do it inside the UK. Lets not be silly ffs. The European rail network was largely rebuilt during the 1950's due to the fact that goods yards, railway tracks, bridges and tunnels are strategically important and obvious targets. However, in the UK our Victorian rail infrastructure was for the most part undamaged which is why unlike Europe, we still have Victorian bridges and tunnels. Clearly that is not going to be the case. The miles and miles of rail track were not blown up or replaced. The brilliant network of railways across Europe, the modern reliable trains and the respectable prices are nothing to do with WW2 |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 2, 2023 9:44:56 GMT
Lets not be silly ffs. The European rail network was largely rebuilt during the 1950's due to the fact that goods yards, railway tracks, bridges and tunnels are strategically important and obvious targets. However, in the UK our Victorian rail infrastructure was for the most part undamaged which is why unlike Europe, we still have Victorian bridges and tunnels. Clearly that is not going to be the case. The miles and miles of rail track were not blown up or replaced. The brilliant network of railways across Europe, the modern reliable trains and the respectable prices are nothing to do with WW2 Stop it. You're being a pillock. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 2, 2023 9:49:05 GMT
It's a very curious argument to be making. The reason why our railways are so crap is because no kindly enemy bombed them to bits for us. If only they'd had done that we could have rebuilt them all by now in a form more suitable for modern times.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 2, 2023 10:01:15 GMT
Clearly that is not going to be the case. The miles and miles of rail track were not blown up or replaced. The brilliant network of railways across Europe, the modern reliable trains and the respectable prices are nothing to do with WW2 Stop it. You're being a pillock. I'm sorry. Its those inconvenient facts I keep relating, that shoot down or ill thought through logic. Why can't I just be like the rest and shout Hear hear, bloody EU. 🤣
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 2, 2023 10:07:18 GMT
Stop it. You're being a pillock. I'm sorry. Its those inconvenient facts I keep relating, that shoot down or ill thought through logic. Why can't I just be like the rest and shout Hear hear, bloody EU. 🤣
High Speed Rail 2 (HS2) is a proposed rail link between London, Manchester and Leeds with further, later, extensions to Glasgow and Edinburgh. And if there are complaints about the proposed rail line, no matter how many times the Government says it will ‘re-consider’ – nothing will be done. Because nothing can be done. The whole project is down to the Government in Brussels www.theeuroprobe.org/2015-088-hs2-controlled-by-eu-not-our-gov/ |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 2, 2023 10:15:29 GMT
Only problem is that the government in Brussels neglected to mandate a link between HS1 and HS2 to allow through running to and from the continent. So naturally the bean-counters in Whitehall didn't either.
At the moment the furthest continental-style freight trains can travel is a yard in Barking.
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Post by patman post on Oct 2, 2023 11:37:25 GMT
It's a very curious argument to be making. The reason why our railways are so crap is because no kindly enemy bombed them to bits for us. If only they'd had done that we could have rebuilt them all by now in a form more suitable for modern times. Doesn’t seem such a curious proposition when you consider the importance of railway in WWII Britain. Because railways were an integral part of Britain’s defence — transporting military personnel, equipment and supplies, civilian survival goods like food and survival essentials, and children to safety — a great deal of effort was put into (and expertise developed) repairing bombed track and keeping trains running. A story to be proud of. But the result was that at the end of the War, Britain still had an operating rail system. After the expense of the War, the country had little money to spare for anything but essentials. For decades after, Britain’s nationalised railways were largely maintained on a limited make do and mend budget. The Marshall Plan aided Europe where most mainland recipients used it to repair and develop their infrastructure and industry. Britain spent most of its considerable aid on revamping its military. As a result, the UK fell behind its European competitors on many fronts — of which an ageing rail system was just one example… |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 2, 2023 11:40:31 GMT
It's a very curious argument to be making. The reason why our railways are so crap is because no kindly enemy bombed them to bits for us. If only they'd had done that we could have rebuilt them all by now in a form more suitable for modern times. Don't be stupid. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 2, 2023 11:53:15 GMT
As when and if HS2 is finished to help us the General Public to get work, go on holiday or see and visit relatives or friends better and faster, the RMT will be able to bring it to a halt as and when they see fit, they will as per usual stop the travelling public being able to travel as and when they see fit
IMO it is no coincidence that rail strikes were not called when the Labour Party Conference was being held, but strikes were called when the Tory Conference began
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