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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 13:45:01 GMT
Being in the CPTPP isn't an obstacle to rejoining. The US left the CPTPP. It will be difficult for the UK to tear itself away from that 0.06% growth promised by CPTPP membership, but it will happen if CPTPP membership is inconsistent with rejoining the common market or the EU. Still 62%, Bubs. Rejoin has still won more than 90 consecutive polls. Your optimism is endearing, though. Yes it is. No British government will keep flip-flopping in and out of trade agreements willy nilly. The Tories got their too quickly for you Mr. Bray, and the CPTPP won't be reversed especially as moving back to a schlerotic trading blow with very little to no growth and all the bureaucratic burdens this entails won't be worthy of the upheaval.  Yet again, I think you'll have found yourself climaxing too early. Won't they? 62% indicates otherwise. Let's wait and see. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 23, 2023 13:45:49 GMT
Yes it is. No British government will keep flip-flopping in and out of trade agreements willy nilly. The Tories got their too quickly for you Mr. Bray, and the CPTPP won't be reversed especially as moving back to a schlerotic trading blow with very little to no growth and all the bureaucratic burdens this entails won't be worthy of the upheaval. Yet again, I think you'll have found yourself climaxing too early. Won't they? 62% indicates otherwise. Let's wait and see. CPTPP. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 13:46:07 GMT
thanks for your in depth analysis darling. An englishman humiliating england on the world stage must be nearly as bad as brown and his scot brit labour cronies doing the same to us. Im willing to bet though the proud english have very long memories ,and that the more keir starmer lets out the bag pre election , the more people are going to vote against labour.
Their leads seems very fragile , and could quite easily be reversed. They seem to be on the opposite side of public opinion on many subjects.surprise surprise.
What analysis do you want? The polls indicate a Labour win. It's not guaranteed. What more would you like me to say, Toejam? im merely hoping for a wee bit of banter and more importantly debate dynamis , and so far we have some wee child running around the forum calling his elders and betters names, while masturbating furiously at the thought of EU jam tomorrow.
I fink vinny can handle the craic more than you .
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 13:46:54 GMT
Only 43% voted for the Tories in 2019. A majority voted for second referendum parties. Read that how you like. Right at the this moment, the important figure is 62%. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 13:47:18 GMT
geez peace darling. They also had the lead in the majority of polls prior to the referendum , but still lost it and a subsequent number of elections . this silent majority myth is wearing thin now dont you think?
you are one to talk considering its currently 5 nil to brexiters in political victories since 2015 GE. Its the equivalent of dagenham and redbridge fans telling man city fans their optimism is endearing FFS.
90 consecutive poll wins is ... encouraging. It's not a guarantee. There you have it: my in-depth analysis. If you're not satisfied, maybe try engaging someone else. if only polls won general elections and referendums eh? |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 13:47:42 GMT
Won't they? 62% indicates otherwise. Let's wait and see. CPTPP. Indeed. Or 0.06% growth (which is what it represents).  |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 13:48:15 GMT
90 consecutive poll wins is ... encouraging. It's not a guarantee. There you have it: my in-depth analysis. If you're not satisfied, maybe try engaging someone else. if only polls won general elections and referendums eh? They don't. They're merely indicators, Toejam. And before you say it, not all polls before the referendum indicated a Remain win. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 13:49:37 GMT
Only 43% voted for the Tories in 2019. A majority voted for second referendum parties. Read that how you like. Right at the this moment, the important figure is 62%. only 20 % of the electorate voted for tony blair in 2001 , but that still gave him a 412 seat landslide. You know the rules of the game dyno , and how it works. dont go bleating about the rules when it doesnt work in your favour. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 13:51:29 GMT
if only polls won general elections and referendums eh? They don't. They're merely indicators, Toejam. And before you say it, not all polls before the referendum indicated a Remain win. yawn dynamis. Round and round we go. Next you will be telling me its unfair you lost , and illegal. some folk just cant handle this democracy lark when it goes against them. I bet you storm off in a huff when your mum beats you at cards too. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 13:51:32 GMT
if only polls won general elections and referendums eh? They don't. They're merely indicators, Toejam. And before you say it, not all polls before the referendum indicated a Remain win. No only about 90% of them, lol |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 23, 2023 13:54:29 GMT
Only 43% voted for the Tories in 2019. A majority voted for second referendum parties. Read that how you like. Right at the this moment, the important figure is 62%. 5 - 0 |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 13:54:29 GMT
They don't. They're merely indicators, Toejam. And before you say it, not all polls before the referendum indicated a Remain win. No only about 90% of them, lol He had the full weight of the brit and brussells establishments behind him , much of the media , big business , and as you say the pollsters , and still dyno lost not only the referendum , but every subsequent vote.
....but ....but the polls!!! the silent majority!!!
Its like a mental illness.
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 23, 2023 13:54:49 GMT
CPTPP. Indeed. Or 0.06% growth (which is what it represents). CPTPP |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 13:54:55 GMT
Only 43% voted for the Tories in 2019. A majority voted for second referendum parties. Read that how you like. Right at the this moment, the important figure is 62%. only 20 % of the electorate voted for tony blair in 2001 , but that still gave him a 412 seat landslide. You know the rules of the game dyno , and how it works. dont go bleating about the rules when it doesnt work in your favour. We're talking about support for membership. At the moment all the polls indicate (more than 90 consecutive polls, in fact) that a strong majority wishes to rejoin. In 2019, the election results showed that a majority wanted to rejoin (52% voted for second referendum parties). I don't know or care about Blair. The important thing is that a more pro-European party looks set to be the next government. It's not guaranteed. That's all there is to it, T. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 13:55:31 GMT
They don't. They're merely indicators, Toejam. And before you say it, not all polls before the referendum indicated a Remain win. yawn dynamis. Round and round we go. Next you will be telling me its unfair you lost , and illegal. some folk just cant handle this democracy lark when it goes against them. I bet you storm off in a huff when your mum beats you at cards too. Yes, I do. |
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