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Post by johnofgwent on Sept 15, 2023 11:09:09 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/technology-66795175Ok Europhiles, explain THIS one If the EU has a common single market with a single set of standards which every manufacturer of anything intended for sale in the EU MUST pass but once passed allows that item to be sold in EVERY EU Country, why is an iPhone 12 illegal in France because of ‘their specific testing protocol’. Why the fuck are France ALLOWED to have a ‘separate testing protocol’
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Post by steppenwolf on Sept 15, 2023 11:53:09 GMT
I think the thing is that the EU defines certain essential standards that must be complied with to be in the Single Market, but individual countries can specify additional requirements if they want to. IIRC the French decided that UK beef was not acceptable even after the EU had cleared it. In the case of the new iPhone I think that there's a disagreement about the radiation levels emitted by the phone.
But what do you expect from France. After all they think they're in charge of the EU - fucking cheese eating surrender monkeys.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2023 16:57:55 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/technology-66795175Ok Europhiles, explain THIS one If the EU has a common single market with a single set of standards which every manufacturer of anything intended for sale in the EU MUST pass but once passed allows that item to be sold in EVERY EU Country, why is an iPhone 12 illegal in France because of ‘their specific testing protocol’. Why the fuck are France ALLOWED to have a ‘separate testing protocol’ Speaking as a non Europhile, I did try to find out how much power this phone emits at RF and it's all a bit weird, expressed as W/kg of tissue - about 1. A Nokia 3310 is 2W/kg of tissue. (But probably at lower frequencies, which are less dangerous) Latest phones have ionising radiation, which we don't really want at high power levels. We used to express power as input x gain in the antenna. At microwave frequencies, a half wave dipole is of the order of 3cm, which easily fits in a phone. A half wave dipole is considered the standard for unity gain. Which is 2.15dB above an isotropic source - a theoretical antenna with no size, emitting the output power from a point. I understand that "Mobile phones are limited to an effective isotropic radiated power (EIRP) output of 3 watts, and the network continuously adjusts the phone transmitter to the lowest power consistent with good signal quality,"
It's all rather confusing.
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Post by johnofgwent on Sept 15, 2023 17:30:38 GMT
Ok i admit i did not go into the detail of what it was about the phone - which is the model i use - that the french object to. I’m just staggered that they’re allowed to have such a veto. In my eyes it blows the entire point of a single set of criteria for an item to be sold in a single market to shrapnel…..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2023 18:17:50 GMT
Ok i admit i did not go into the detail of what it was about the phone - which is the model i use - that the french object to. I’m just staggered that they’re allowed to have such a veto. In my eyes it blows the entire point of a single set of criteria for an item to be sold in a single market to shrapnel….. In such a competitive market, I would expect Apple to try to get as great a coverage as possible within the regulations. I wonder if they went just a bit too efficient and just got over the power limit.
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 15, 2023 18:18:34 GMT
www.bbc.com/news/technology-66795175Ok Europhiles, explain THIS one If the EU has a common single market with a single set of standards which every manufacturer of anything intended for sale in the EU MUST pass but once passed allows that item to be sold in EVERY EU Country, why is an iPhone 12 illegal in France because of ‘their specific testing protocol’. Why the fuck are France ALLOWED to have a ‘separate testing protocol’ The law is about MINIMUM standards. France wants higher standards. Any country can set HIGHER standards on anything.
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