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Post by om15 on Sept 16, 2023 8:27:23 GMT
That doesn't mean that he doesn't intend to though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 9:47:58 GMT
That doesn't mean that he doesn't intend to though. Keir Starmer has never been Prime Minister - therefore there is no record of Keir Starmer EVER breaking a pledge to the electorate. Your statement that "That doesn't mean that he doesn't intend to though" is quite franky ridiculous, its a guess, conjecture, speculation, in fact its desperation. The point is that the GB News presenter told a lie - he stated that Kier Starmer wants to take the UK back into the EU, proving that GB News cannot be trusted. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 9:50:45 GMT
Quite the opposite.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 10:19:44 GMT
That doesn't mean that he doesn't intend to though. Keir Starmer has never been Prime Minister - therefore there is no record of Keir Starmer EVER breaking a pledge to the electorate. Your statement that "That doesn't mean that he doesn't intend to though" is quite franky ridiculous, its a guess, conjecture, speculation, in fact its desperation. The point is that the GB News presenter told a lie - he stated that Kier Starmer wants to take the UK back into the EU, proving that GB News cannot be trusted. Even though he did try 48 times to stop Brexit, as evidenced in Hansard. He also said "Brexit can be stopped". It's a bit of a clue. |
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Post by om15 on Sept 16, 2023 11:02:25 GMT
It is a clear fact based on Sir Kier Starmer's previous record on trying to thawt the democratic vote after the referendum, together with his current bizarre behaviour sucking up to the EU with his ludicirous immigration plan. Fortunatly I have confidence in the British public seeing this with clarity, and the more we see of Sir Kier Starmer the more the prospect of his becoming Prime Minister recedes away.
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Post by om15 on Sept 16, 2023 11:06:03 GMT
Camila Tomly writes of this today, the following article sums up the dishonesty of Starmer and his henchpersons in the shadows,
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 16, 2023 11:18:41 GMT
It is a clear fact based on Sir Kier Starmer's previous record on trying to thawt the democratic vote after the referendum, together with his current bizarre behaviour sucking up to the EU with his ludicirous immigration plan. Fortunatly I have confidence in the British public seeing this with clarity, and the more we see of Sir Kier Starmer the more the prospect of his becoming Prime Minister recedes away. Let's face it.The UK's "plans" havent fared very well. God knows how much money they have and are costing. This is clearly an international issue that needs international cooperation to solve. Nice to see someone realise that. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 11:26:39 GMT
Read this slowly >>>
Keir Starmer has stated many times that there is no case for rejoining the EU
Read this slowly >>>
Keir Starmer HAS NOT said that he will revisit the referendum or take the UK back into the EU
GB News is proven to be utterly biased, very unreliable, and its presenters are very clearly liars, and it makes no difference what Keir Starmer said in 2015 or 2016 or prior to the UK leaving the EU. Once we left, he said it is the end of the issue.
What is it that posters dont understand ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 11:31:43 GMT
Camila Tomly writes of this today, the following article sums up the dishonesty of Starmer and his henchpersons in the shadows, This column / write-up is utter bullshit, and once again it attempts to infer, state or suggest the complete opposite of what Keir Starmer has repeatedly stated since the UK left the EU. That there is no case for rejoining, that the matter is closed, and that he will not revisit the referendum or take the UK back into the EU. Forging closer links with our neighbours to best ease trade and business, or colaboration on security, policing or defence matters, science or immigration is not the same as rejoining the EU, its simply common sense. |
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Post by om15 on Sept 16, 2023 11:45:05 GMT
I think that you might find opinion is divided on that thought, the EU have every intention of ensuring that Brexit doesn't work and that an independent UK will not prosper outside the EU, I don't have a problem with their position, it is sound politics to try to prevent others countries from leaving, however, only the most naive and gullible would imagine that any deal they propose with the UK will be in our best interests.
Trade with them, yes, enter binding treaties or contracts with them that gives EU legislation precedence over the UK certainly not. We only have to see how the ECHR law is degrading our sovereignty in the area of migration. Starmer proposing to give the EU the power to dictate the level of immigration to the UK is treason and he and his marxist incompetents should be driven out of politics.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 16, 2023 11:47:19 GMT
Camila Tomly writes of this today, the following article sums up the dishonesty of Starmer and his henchpersons in the shadows, This column / write-up is utter bullshit, and once again it attempts to infer, state or suggest the complete opposite of what Keir Starmer has repeatedly stated since the UK left the EU. That there is no case for rejoining, that the matter is closed, and that he will not revisit the referendum or take the UK back into the EU. Forging closer links with our neighbours to best ease trade and business, or colaboration on security, policing or defence matters, science or immigration is not the same as rejoining the EU, its simply common sense. Starmer like all the left are well known for their bullshit...
Keir Starmer accused of lying after claiming Sue Gray didn’t break rules
Whitehall investigation concludes partygate investigator broke Civil Service code because of ‘undeclared contact’ with Labour
Angela Rayner WAS at Keir Starmer's 'beergate' event despite Labour denying it, while MPs reveal the deputy leader joked about using Sharon Stone ploy at PMQs and leader apparently flouted guidance at his own birthday bash... with cake.
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 16, 2023 11:52:05 GMT
I think that you might find opinion is divided on that thought, the EU have every intention of ensuring that Brexit doesn't work and that an independent UK will not prosper outside the EU, I don't have a problem with their position, it is sound politics to try to prevent others countries from leaving, however, only the most naive and gullible would imagine that any deal they propose with the UK will be in our best interests. Trade with them, yes, enter binding treaties or contracts with them that gives EU legislation precedence over the UK certainly not. We only have to see how the ECHR law is degrading our sovereignty in the area of migration. Starmer proposing to give the EU the power to dictate the level of immigration to the UK is treason and he and his marxist incompetents should be driven out of politics. OFFS not again. The ECHR has nothing to do with the EU. And if the EU were so intent on destroying the UK it wouldnt have spent hours, days and weeks discussing the Northern iIreland issue post 2020. The EU will always take precedence over the UK in trade. It is simply far bigger. It doesnt really need your teabags and technology. It can all be acquired elsewhere. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 11:54:16 GMT
On the so called "Beergate" issue, which actually was not an issue, Sir Keir Starmer did not ever say that Angela Raynor was there, and he never said that she was not there, he at no time ever commented.
As regards Sue Gray, anyone is entitled to state their opinion as to whether ( in their view ) someone broke the rules, but it does not make that person a liar if a committee then decide that in their view she did break the rules.
Your posts are getting desparate Joknsy
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Post by om15 on Sept 16, 2023 12:09:27 GMT
We all know that and as far as I know it hasn't been claimed on this forum. I merely made reference to the situation to prove my point that laws made outside the UK are not necessarily in the interests of the UK. But I think that you know that and are merely grasping at inconsequential straws to take attention away from my correct assertions about Sir Kier Starmer and the EU.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 16, 2023 12:18:02 GMT
On the so called "Beergate" issue, which actually was not an issue, Sir Keir Starmer did not ever say that Angela Raynor was there, and he never said that she was not there, he at no time ever commented.As regards Sue Gray, anyone is entitled to state their opinion as to whether ( in their view ) someone broke the rules, but it does not make that person a liar if a committee then decide that in their view she did break the rules. Your posts are getting desparate Joknsy Why would he not say?
Only guilty people withhold information, he should know that he's ex-DPP.
If someone asked me was a particular person present at a meeting, I would instantly reply Yes or No, there isn't any ifs or buts, so why did Starmer not say yes or no?
There are two conclusions
1. He was that pissed at his 'business meeting' he genuinely couldn't remember
2. He was 'covering up' for her, and realised they were in shit, meaning he knew they were breaking the rules, that's why he withheld information.
Ok sid so what reason would you give if you were asked them same question if someone was present at a business meeting you were in charge of?
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