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Post by jonksy on Sept 16, 2023 14:36:41 GMT
But Starmer is a proven massive liar and Labour can't be trusted. What is it that you don't understand about that? One lie please? Which lie do you want RR as we are all spoilt for choice when it comes to starmer and labour lies?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 14:43:51 GMT
So let me ask this question : IF Angela Raynor was there and Keir Starmer lied and said that she was not there (which of course he did not ), but never the less, let us imagine that Starmer did tell a lie and state that she was not there, exactly what difference would it have made. ?
If Raynor was there, but Keir Starmer said that she was not there, would it then have made a perfectly legal meeting illegal. ?
Or is it a case that the usual Tory Apologists are miffed and pissed off at the FACT that Bumbling Boris got fined for breaking the rules, and you cannot find any way to get at Keir Starmer to vent your revenge or anger, because Starmer did nothing wrong.
Your all full of shit ... insinuating that it was all somehow fixed because the Durham County PCC is Labour, suggesting that because Starmer said nothing, because no one asked him, he therefore must be a liar.
Utter desparation - utterly clutching at straws, this is gutter politics
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 16, 2023 15:38:07 GMT
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Post by om15 on Sept 16, 2023 15:39:34 GMT
Not at all, Boris Johnson was hounded out of office because of a piece of birthday cake, those in the media, politics and police/judiciary who hounded him out of office then stood back whilst Starmer and his common foul mouthed floozy had a curry piss up with no action taken.
Johnson was an idiot to allow himself to be put in that position, Starmer was even worse because he did the same but with alcohol but claimed it was a "work" meeting. Perhaps if he wasn't pissed during work meetings he might come up with better ideas than his current (for this week) plan to put the limits of immigration into the UK in the hands of the EU.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 16, 2023 15:48:26 GMT
...Utter desparation - utterly clutching at straws... Yes, you are.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 16:45:35 GMT
Your video here from YouTube is produced by Novara Media, a far left alternative media organisation which supported Jeremy Corbyn but is critical of Keir Starmer, an odd choice by you The Squeezed Middle. I will repeat here what I have stated previously, that any politician who is not in government can change their policies, also that any politician either in, or out of government should be able to change their party manifesto, just as long as they do not go into an election with a manifesto with pledges, and then break from the policy set out in that manifesto. To date, Keir Starmer has not gone into an election with a manifesto, or a set of promises, and then reneged or gone back on what was stated in such a manifesto. Saying that he believes the water industry ought to be in state hands, and then changing his mind and then saying "we need to be pragmatic" IS NOT TELLING LIES, its called changing policy or changing priorities. If Keir Starmer said before next years election that he will take water back into state hands, and if this was worded in the manifesto, and if after winning that election he then reneged on that policy - Then, and only then would I accept that he is a liar. The deadline for Keir Starmer to NOT alter or change any promise, pledge or commitment is the publishing of the election manifesto prior to a general election. Rishi Sunak is going to fail on his Five Pledges, does that make him a liar ?
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 16, 2023 17:06:40 GMT
Read this slowly >>> Keir Starmer has stated many times that there is no case for rejoining the EURead this slowly >>> Keir Starmer HAS NOT said that he will revisit the referendum or take the UK back into the EUWhy would anyone trust those pledges when he has broken so many in the past?
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 16, 2023 17:21:41 GMT
Which lie do you want RR as we are all spoilt for choice when it comes to starmer and labour lies? NOW you are all morally puffed up about lies?? 🤣🤣🤣 I dont know which are funnier, yours or the Brexit bunch.
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Post by sheepy on Sept 16, 2023 17:24:21 GMT
So let me ask this question : IF Angela Raynor was there and Keir Starmer lied and said that she was not there (which of course he did not ), but never the less, let us imagine that Starmer did tell a lie and state that she was not there, exactly what difference would it have made. ? If Raynor was there, but Keir Starmer said that she was not there, would it then have made a perfectly legal meeting illegal. ? Or is it a case that the usual Tory Apologists are miffed and pissed off at the FACT that Bumbling Boris got fined for breaking the rules, and you cannot find any way to get at Keir Starmer to vent your revenge or anger, because Starmer did nothing wrong. Your all full of shit ... insinuating that it was all somehow fixed because the Durham County PCC is Labour, suggesting that because Starmer said nothing, because no one asked him, he therefore must be a liar. Utter desparation - utterly clutching at straws, this is gutter politics Give it a rest Sid, there isn't a Westminster politician who doesn't lie, its what they do for a living. As most you spend your waking hours pretending they don't. It is utterly pointless, we all know they do, constantly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 18:15:38 GMT
Read this slowly >>> Keir Starmer has stated many times that there is no case for rejoining the EURead this slowly >>> Keir Starmer HAS NOT said that he will revisit the referendum or take the UK back into the EUGB News is proven to be utterly biased, very unreliable, and its presenters are very clearly liars, and it makes no difference what Keir Starmer said in 2015 or 2016 or prior to the UK leaving the EU. Once we left, he said it is the end of the issue. What is it that posters dont understand ? It's Starmer's u-turns and duplicity which are difficult to understand, Sid. He changes his mind according to the wind direction.
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Post by wapentake on Sept 16, 2023 18:33:53 GMT
Read this slowly >>> Keir Starmer has stated many times that there is no case for rejoining the EURead this slowly >>> Keir Starmer HAS NOT said that he will revisit the referendum or take the UK back into the EUGB News is proven to be utterly biased, very unreliable, and its presenters are very clearly liars, and it makes no difference what Keir Starmer said in 2015 or 2016 or prior to the UK leaving the EU. Once we left, he said it is the end of the issue. What is it that posters dont understand ? It's Starmer's u-turns and duplicity which are difficult to understand, Sid. He changes his mind according to the wind direction. And most of the wind comes from his mouth
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Post by bancroft on Sept 16, 2023 18:43:24 GMT
Read this slowly >>> Keir Starmer has stated many times that there is no case for rejoining the EURead this slowly >>> Keir Starmer HAS NOT said that he will revisit the referendum or take the UK back into the EUGB News is proven to be utterly biased, very unreliable, and its presenters are very clearly liars, and it makes no difference what Keir Starmer said in 2015 or 2016 or prior to the UK leaving the EU. Once we left, he said it is the end of the issue. What is it that posters dont understand ? It's Starmer's u-turns and duplicity which are difficult to understand, Sid. He changes his mind according to the wind direction. Like Blair he was legally trained which means he will swallow the UN rule book hook, line and sinker. No EU group is going to give us a better deal because we are not in their club and they are likely getting more numbers than us. I don't think he is as devious as Blair yet he will swallow the green issues and using the nanny state put more taxes into driving your car in one way or another.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 17, 2023 14:27:52 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 17, 2023 14:39:23 GMT
Why doesn't the idiot realise that not only the UK think he's a utter plank, but most of the EU think the same.
The useful idiot doesn't know that's all he is, the EU lapdog, if someone was taking the piss out of me like the EU are with Starmer, I would tell them where to go, but not Starmer, the arse licking idiot is still prepared to lick their boots.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 17, 2023 17:18:56 GMT
So 4 days ago Starmers policy was to join the EU quota system - now its not... These u turns are getting faster and faster...
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