A New Lie 'Climate Breakdown has begun'

I've read / watched a lot of material on evolutionary biology.  It is really interesting stuff and it makes your question your own presumptions.  There is no "generational link" beyond the few generations before and after you because they are "unknown".  Basically, when it comes down to it, you only really care about those with the closest genetic links (grandparents, parents, children... and interestingly the children of your siblings).

You can try to take the moral high ground all you want, but that is just you misunderstanding your place in the universe.  Yes people will care about things that effect them now, like air pollution, but asking them to care about something a 100+ years down the line is just pointless... not because they lack morals, but because we are just not built that way.

Like I said previously, it pretty pointless worrying about distant problems because we are all doomed anyway lol.

Zanygame said: "I am more staggered every day by the mix is ignorance and arrogance.
Vaccinations do not and never have stopped people catching diseases. They teach your immune system to recognise a virus and react faster to it thus preventing serious illness.
Jeez and you tell me I can't learn."

I'm well aware of how vaccinations work, but the fact is that - as I said right at the beginning of the Covid outbreak - we have never managed to make a viable vaccine for any Corona virus despite many decades of trying (in the case of the cold). By "viable" I mean one that actually prevents people catching the disease and lasts a reasonable length of time. The problem with the Covid vaccines is that they don't actually prevent people catching the disease - or prevent it being infectious - they just (arguably) reduce symptoms. And, crucially, their effectiveness wears off very rapidly. This is unlike most other vaccines that last for many years and are highly effective at preventing people catching the disease. For example the polio vaccine has virtually eliminated polio - with one jab.

I don't know what it is about the Corona virus that makes it so hard for vaccines to work but the fact remains that they don't. We're just lucky that it's evolved to be less dangerous. I think that the vaccination will gradually be restricted to use only with those with special vulnerabilities. The risk/benefit ratio doesn't work for anyone else. You can't continue exposing the whole population to vaccines because the vaccine itself has dangers.

You just never seem to understand anything Zany.

Did anyone see Tice on Sunday? There was a bit where he interviewed Dr Ray Connolly about climate change. He's a climate change scientist who has written papers on warming where he attributes the warming we've seen to the Sun. He also made some interesting comments on the variation in temperature between urban and rural areas. He's reanalysed the data in relation to the comparison of data from rural and urban weather stations and says that the warming in urban areas is much larger than that in rural areas but that these urban weather stations are greatly over-represented in the figures produced by the IPCC - as urban areas make up less than 4% of the land area.

I'll have to have another look at it because it's something that has always struck me an obvious source of error when comparing temperatures in 1850 and today.

Why are you pretending climate change wont effect our grand children? Is it another excuse to not clear up the mess we have made? 

Why when I ask for the data for 95% people run away, where is the data that storms are becoming worse, rainfall, hurricanes, floods, droughts, heatwaves, sea level rising alarmingly etc. etc. All that seems to be available is it is getting warmer and CO2 is rising. Everything else is just repeated lies based on nothing more than wishful thinking. I really think if the science is settled and there are dire consequences in the offing then the evidence of a 'breakdown' should be not just apparent but at the alarmists finger tips.

No they don't. You were given the links but decided they were untrue based on some guff from Whatsupwiththat.

I checked that guff and found many of the dissenter claims were on stupid minute points. Such as that vegetation does take up excess Co2, while the "dissenter" openly agreed that it didn't stop climate change being an issue nor go anywhere near solving or mitigating it. 

You are guilty of observation bias to a degree that makes your claims against me laughable.