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Post by Vinny on Sept 14, 2023 8:20:30 GMT
Steve, you've made several incorrect statements, including the statement about George Osborne not being in the official remain campaign, he was, right next to David Cameron and Liz Truss.
He was chief scaremonger. He warned of a profound economic shock and half a million job losses. He warned we'd all be £4k a year worse off.
Refresh your memory.
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 14, 2023 8:51:51 GMT
You're confusing us with the Manfrog and his toadies. It must come as a culture shock for the remnants to see their lies and and predictions crumble faster than a blairs PFI hosital. Yes, that 62% figure has really crushed out spirit, Jonks  |
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Post by Steve on Sept 14, 2023 9:53:11 GMT
It was the biggest illegal act in modern UK electoral history. And you think that shouldn't get mentioned? Serious question, are you compos mentis? The biggest illegal act in modern UK history was John (The bastard) Major handing the UK to the EU without the consent of the electorate. Another big fat lie from the usual source. As you have been told countless times, he had the permission of the 1992 General Election, the biggest electoral vote in UK history, to join the EU. |
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Post by Steve on Sept 14, 2023 9:55:12 GMT
Steve, you've made several incorrect statements, including the statement about George Osborne not being in the official remain campaign, he was, right next to David Cameron and Liz Truss. He was chief scaremonger. He warned of a profound economic shock and half a million job losses. He warned we'd all be £4k a year worse off. Refresh your memory. Link please to back that he was ever a member of Stronger In the official remain campaign or that he ever appeared for them in any official campaigning or TV slot. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2023 16:38:54 GMT
It was the biggest illegal act in modern UK electoral history. And you think that shouldn't get mentioned? Is this one of the stages of grief? Denial that the referendum was legal, or was it invoking article 50 that was illegal? Neither, but I'm sure Steve will know what he's talking about. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 14, 2023 17:14:24 GMT
Steve, you've made several incorrect statements, including the statement about George Osborne not being in the official remain campaign, he was, right next to David Cameron and Liz Truss. He was chief scaremonger. He warned of a profound economic shock and half a million job losses. He warned we'd all be £4k a year worse off. Refresh your memory. Meanwhile i am still looking for any benefits Brexit was supposed to bring. General wealth? Nope. Environmental improvement ? Nope. Reduce migration? Nope. Chase French fishermen out of the Channel and increase catch? Nope. Higher wages at the bottom? Only enough to cover inflation. Result...nope. Your own Horizon and Copernicus programme? Nope. Happy farmers paid EU subsidy rates? Nope. Full employment? Nope. You need about a million more. Nope. Fabulous NHS. Nope. Your economic shock is like boiling frogs. Little by little, if international investment doesnt hurry up and arrive, you wont be able to catch up. And dont bore me with last weeks or months figures. You have to look at a year's results. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 14, 2023 21:11:59 GMT
Steve, you've made several incorrect statements, including the statement about George Osborne not being in the official remain campaign, he was, right next to David Cameron and Liz Truss. He was chief scaremonger. He warned of a profound economic shock and half a million job losses. He warned we'd all be £4k a year worse off. Refresh your memory. Link please to back that he was ever a member of Stronger In the official remain campaign or that he ever appeared for them in any official campaigning or TV slot. Here him campaigning with them centre stage. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564Surprised you didn't remember the bullshit he came out with. Their campaign was atrocious. Weren't you paying attention at the time? |
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Post by Steve on Sept 14, 2023 21:23:14 GMT
It was the biggest illegal act in modern UK electoral history. And you think that shouldn't get mentioned? Is this one of the stages of grief? Denial that the referendum was legal, or was it invoking article 50 that was illegal? Neither, but I'm sure Steve will know what he's talking about. Spending over £600k over the campaign limit was illegal. No election or referendum before or after has got anywhere near that degree of illegality. I only mention such when people seek to deceive with malicious comments like '. . .so many childishly refused to accept a legitimate vote and democracy in action . . '
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Post by Vinny on Sept 14, 2023 22:00:52 GMT
Both sides overspent and you are now ignoring the points about George Osborne and his abysmal arguments at the centre of the Stronger In campaign position. He, and David Cameron put forward shit arguments and the country rejected those arguments.
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Post by Steve on Sept 14, 2023 22:02:13 GMT
Both sides overspent and you are now ignoring the points about George Osborne and his abysmal arguments at the centre of the Stronger In campaign position. He, and David Cameron put forward shit arguments and the country rejected those arguments. Nope, the Remain campaign UNDERSPENT by about £30k |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 14, 2023 22:04:14 GMT
No. They used a £9m leaflet campaign to get a head start. But the arguments they made were bollocks.
It wasn't cash which won it, but arguments. And Britain Stronger In Europe made crap arguments.
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Post by Steve on Sept 14, 2023 22:06:05 GMT
No. They used a £9m leaflet campaign to get a head start. But the arguments they made were bollocks. It wasn't cash which won it, but arguments. And Britain Stronger In Europe made crap arguments. They never used a £9M campaign. They got the same free postal distribution Vote Leave got. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 14, 2023 22:09:48 GMT
Steve I received one of the leaflets through my letterbox. It was about the referendum. It urged me to vote remain.
You can try any excuse you like but remain OUTSPENT leave by millions.
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Post by Steve on Sept 14, 2023 22:16:46 GMT
Steve I received one of the leaflets through my letterbox. It was about the referendum. It urged me to vote remain. You can try any excuse you like but remain OUTSPENT leave by millions. Nope. Had you looked at that leaflet you'd have seen it was a 3 in 1 leaflet with the government message, the Vote Leave message and the Stronger In message. One distribution. And you know full well that the regulated spend is the matter at hand delineated in time and source. So the massive pro leave spend by the Daily Mail, Telegraph, Sun, Express and Times isn't counted and neither is spend before the regulated period. Leave spent more and crucially Leave illegally spent big time in the last week facebook messaging swing voters when Stronger In had had to close down its campaign to stay inside the limit. Illegally won. The 2019 election however was legally (but less than morally) won and that's your legitimate right to Brexit. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 15, 2023 5:46:13 GMT
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