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Post by Pacifico on Nov 3, 2022 11:53:28 GMT
If anyone is not satisfied with the level of care provided they are fully entitled to return to France.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 3, 2022 11:56:29 GMT
If anyone is not satisfied with the level of care provided they are fully entitled to return to France. We could even supply the inflatables for the journey.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 3, 2022 11:58:19 GMT
If anyone is not satisfied with the level of care provided they are fully entitled to return to France. We could even supply the inflatables for the journey. Wouldn't even have to do that - a ticket to get on the ferry - ffs they can even get some duty free on the way back to Calais.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 3, 2022 12:05:19 GMT
I agree mate, that in itself would act as a partial deterent if they knew they were going there for a few months or years with just the essential basics. Left wing lawyers who misuse legislation in order to keep criminals in this country are a massive issue which the government should address with a sense of urgency. Also, imo the only person who can realistically stop the invasion is Macron. The sooner the government accept this and take off the kid gloves the better. Behind closed doors Macron and the EU are laughing their heads off at the UK who must be punished for Brexit. I totaly agree mate. As we approach the 11th I wonder what we lost all those brave boys for? What a fucking waste.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 3, 2022 12:07:13 GMT
We could even supply the inflatables for the journey. Wouldn't even have to do that - a ticket to get on the ferry - ffs they can even get some duty free on the way back to Calais. I see now that some of these unwanted and illegal arseholes are bitching because they have no smokes FFS.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 3, 2022 12:07:40 GMT
We could even supply the inflatables for the journey. Wouldn't even have to do that - a ticket to get on the ferry - ffs they can even get some duty free on the way back to Calais. Or a small memento of their visit ..
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 3, 2022 13:21:20 GMT
One simple rule to solve the whole issue." No admission without prior permission." Change the law so they have to apply for permission to come here at the British embassy in any European country. If they don't get permission to enter the UK there, they could be put on the first plane back to the last safe country they left if they arrive here. We've already passed a law saying that the people arriving on dinghies are illegal immigrants. But it doesn't help when most of these bastards have thrown away their ID and France won't accept them back. What also doesn't help is Mrs May's daft 2015 Modern Slavery Act which means that anyone can come from anywhere and claim asylum if they claim to have been "trafficked". Keep up, Mprgan.
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Post by Morgan on Nov 3, 2022 14:05:57 GMT
One simple rule to solve the whole issue." No admission without prior permission." Change the law so they have to apply for permission to come here at the British embassy in any European country. If they don't get permission to enter the UK there, they could be put on the first plane back to the last safe country they left if they arrive here. We've already passed a law saying that the people arriving on dinghies are illegal immigrants. But it doesn't help when most of these bastards have thrown away their ID and France won't accept them back. What also doesn't help is Mrs May's daft 2015 Modern Slavery Act which means that anyone can come from anywhere and claim asylum if they claim to have been "trafficked". Keep up, Mprgan. Just so you can keep up and learn the facts about "Mrs May's daft 2015 Modern Slavery Act" as you call it. www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/20/theresa-may-unlawfully-detained-potential-trafficking-victims-court-rules
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 3, 2022 15:20:34 GMT
I thought I posted this but it’s not here. Ah well …
Under British law we can and do imprison people who in law are innocent because they are presumed innocent. They are on remand to answer accusations that they have committed crimes. They have not been found to have committed a crime and in some cases they will be released at the start of their trial when the state’s case against them is not pressed, but they sit today behind bars as much a prisoner as the mad axe murderer in the next wing.
So my first point is to speak against those who complain we treat immigrants as prisoners. Wake up, we treat those accused of a crime but against which no case is proven as prisoners, and if they are fiund not guilty there is no recompense for the incarceration.
So we have every right to hold those who claim asylum in places and in conditions we might incarcerate remand prisoners.
That said, the problem is the huge numbers of cases and the sheer determination of lawyers to delay and derail the case being heard and their failure leading to deportation causes huge backlogs.
I said at least a decade ago we owe it to the person genuinely in need of the states help to hear the case quickly, and to speedily eject those whose cases are found wanting. I don’t expect labour to do anything, but the tories won’t either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2022 16:23:08 GMT
I wonder how long it took for the German people to start saying that about the Jews, Gypsies etc. Stupid comment. To be expected, sadly. Do you not believe if a far right in Germany. It is a fact that many German people supported the idea of murdering Jews, Gypsies... It always starts of small and then grows like a tree.
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Post by sandypine on Nov 3, 2022 17:33:08 GMT
Quite right, it should be like a prison camp, an uncomfortable prison camp. Perhaps if these people knew they were going to be held in a prison camp rather than 3 & 4 star hotels they would be less inclined to leave the safe EU state of France. I wonder how long it took for the German people to start saying that about the Jews, Gypsies etc. It did not take more than a week or so for the righteously vaccinated to demand that the unvaccinated wore identification badges and/or were excluded from public interaction and in fact in some countries they could not even go into a supermarket.
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 4, 2022 8:22:43 GMT
We've already passed a law saying that the people arriving on dinghies are illegal immigrants. But it doesn't help when most of these bastards have thrown away their ID and France won't accept them back. What also doesn't help is Mrs May's daft 2015 Modern Slavery Act which means that anyone can come from anywhere and claim asylum if they claim to have been "trafficked". Keep up, Mprgan. Just so you can keep up and learn the facts about "Mrs May's daft 2015 Modern Slavery Act" as you call it. www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/20/theresa-may-unlawfully-detained-potential-trafficking-victims-court-rules There's something wrong with you, Morgan. Your posts are almost always nonsensical. Your previous post was typical: " One simple rule to solve the whole issue." No admission without prior permission." Change the law so they have to apply for permission to come here at the British embassy in any European country. If they don't get permission to enter the UK there, they could be put on the first plane back to the last safe country they left if they arrive here". Like I said you'd have to repeal the Modern Slavery Act which allows anyone to come here by any means and use that act to claim asylum. And there is no reason at all why people should be allowed to claim asylum in British Embassies in Europe because they're ALREADY in a safe country. Dozy or what.
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Post by Morgan on Nov 4, 2022 14:51:39 GMT
There's something wrong with you, Morgan. Your posts are almost always nonsensical. Your previous post was typical: " One simple rule to solve the whole issue." No admission without prior permission." Change the law so they have to apply for permission to come here at the British embassy in any European country. If they don't get permission to enter the UK there, they could be put on the first plane back to the last safe country they left if they arrive here". Like I said you'd have to repeal the Modern Slavery Act which allows anyone to come here by any means and use that act to claim asylum. And there is no reason at all why people should be allowed to claim asylum in British Embassies in Europe because they're ALREADY in a safe country. Dozy or what. I don't see the need to post every little nuance or law connected to the subject in hand to make the point of the thread. It would take ages and is surely unnecessary except for the terminally stupid and those entering their post for the "Stating the Bleedin' Obvious." award. I'll add you to the list.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 4, 2022 15:20:45 GMT
"A minister risked another row today after he said migrants have “a bit of a cheek” to complain about the conditions in which they are kept.
Policing minister Chris Philp suggested migrants were being unreasonable in raising concerns given that they entered the UK “illegally”.
He told Times Radio: “If people choose to enter a country illegally and unnecessarily, it is a bit of a cheek to then start complaining about the conditions when you’ve illegally entered the country without necessity.
“They didn’t have to come here. They were in France already and previously often passed through Belgium, Germany, and many other countries on the way..."
I couldn't agree more with Mr Philp. Naturally, lefties are blowing a gasket over his comments.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 4, 2022 18:47:10 GMT
I agree with him as well, they are only in that former barracks at Dover because to many have arrived in such a short period of time, they are struggling to deal with so many people delaying the process of booking them in one by one, and difficulty in finding accommodation to move them on to
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