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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 25, 2023 14:58:09 GMT
Sunak a hardened Europhile? 🤔 😳🙄😂 Of course he is, for Christs sake he has given Macron £500 million to stop the illegal invasion yet the illegal invasion increases by the day. Sunak is going through the motions of being outraged with the illegal invasion while at all times doing absolutely nothing to stop it. So giving money to France makes you a committed Europhile? I don't think you've actually thought that logic through... |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 25, 2023 15:34:24 GMT
Of course he is, for Christs sake he has given Macron £500 million to stop the illegal invasion yet the illegal invasion increases by the day. Sunak is going through the motions of being outraged with the illegal invasion while at all times doing absolutely nothing to stop it. So giving money to France makes you a committed Europhile? I don't think you've actually thought that logic through... So when is Sunak going to openly criticize Macron, while the French border force have actually been caught sitting watching the boats until they leave French waters in to UK waters without any attempt to stop them?
Sunak will say fuck all about Marcon, neither will the rest of MP cross party shithouses, because they don't want to upset the EU, we are still their puppets, even though we know we don't need them, but they need us.
These MP and PM and nothing but self serving, and Sunak would rejoin the EU today if he could, I think that's why the Tories don't want to win the next GE, they are hoping Labour/Starmer/Blair will get to steer the UK back in to the EU.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 25, 2023 15:41:55 GMT
So giving money to France makes you a committed Europhile? I don't think you've actually thought that logic through... So when is Sunak going to openly criticize Macron, while the French border force have actually been caught sitting watching the boats until they leave French waters in to UK waters without any attempt to stop them?
Sunak will say fuck all about Marcon, neither will the rest of MP cross party shithouses, because they don't want to upset the EU, we are still their puppets, even though we know we don't need them, but they need us.
These MP and PM and nothing but self serving, and Sunak would rejoin the EU today if he could, I think that's why the Tories don't want to win the next GE, they are hoping Labour/Starmer/Blair will get to steer the UK back in to the EU.
Whilst your first paragraph is a fair question and one worthy of debate, the other two are just your vivid imagination masquerading as opinion. Boris wasn't afraid to upset the EU. They even said that he was difficult to work with, because they couldn't trust him. Sunak has tried to reset that relationship. That doesn't mean he wants to join the EU though. I want to get on with my neighbours is not the same as I want to marry them. I'm sure you can tell the difference. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 25, 2023 15:48:35 GMT
So when is Sunak going to openly criticize Macron, while the French border force have actually been caught sitting watching the boats until they leave French waters in to UK waters without any attempt to stop them?
Sunak will say fuck all about Marcon, neither will the rest of MP cross party shithouses, because they don't want to upset the EU, we are still their puppets, even though we know we don't need them, but they need us.
These MP and PM and nothing but self serving, and Sunak would rejoin the EU today if he could, I think that's why the Tories don't want to win the next GE, they are hoping Labour/Starmer/Blair will get to steer the UK back in to the EU.
Whilst your first paragraph is a fair question and one worthy of debate, the other two are just your vivid imagination masquerading as opinion. Boris wasn't afraid to upset the EU. They even said that he was difficult to work with, because they couldn't trust him. Sunak has tried to reset that relationship. That doesn't mean he wants to join the EU though. I want to get on with my neighbours is not the same as I want to marry them. I'm sure you can tell the difference. It's strange that Macron doesn't appear to want to 'get on with my neighbours', if he did he'd make some effort to stop the migrants flooding France to get their dinghy to the UK.
Macron has nothing but contempt for the UK, likewise little short arse Sturgeon hated the English, the UK when it was in the EU was a small fish in a big pond, now we've left we can become a big fish in a small pond ... when and if these useless fuckin MPs and Prime Minister starts to defend our country and stand up for us.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 25, 2023 15:51:13 GMT
Most of what you've just said there isn't true, but I'm popping out for a bit. I'll dissect it later. Have a good afternoon!
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Post by zanygame on Aug 25, 2023 18:59:33 GMT
I don't think anyone doesn't know that. You didn’t because you didn’t say it . You don't know the capital of America? Because you didn't say so. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 25, 2023 19:03:24 GMT
I don't think anyone doesn't know that. why not? - do you normally dive into signing contracts where you dont know the terms of those contracts? We did with the Brexit vote. We voted on whether to leave without negotiating what leaving would mean. And please don't try to tell me we had no need to negotiate our relationship because we were big boys now and didn't need the EU. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 25, 2023 19:07:17 GMT
Sunak a hardened Europhile? 🤔 😳🙄😂 Of course he is, for Christs sake he has given Macron £500 million to stop the illegal invasion yet the illegal invasion increases by the day. Sunak is going through the motions of being outraged with the illegal invasion while at all times doing absolutely nothing to stop it. Yet the French: Official figures show that just 13,759 – or 45.2 per cent – of migrants have been stopped by French beach patrols since January, down from 17,032 (45.8 per cent) over the same period last year. That's 13,759 Migrants stopped. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 25, 2023 19:08:45 GMT
Wishy washy Rishi? Too weak to face down the headbangers on the right of his party and hence utterly ineffectual. Bottom quartile of Post War prime ministers. Best PM of this parliament though. Sunak is the prime minister the parliamentary conservative party wanted, he is not the prime minister the Conservative party members wanted, I would give my eyeteeth to have Truss in number 10. Sadly Sunak has moved the party to the left and there isn't a snowballs chance in hell Sunak will win the election... unless he stops the illegal invasion and he's not going to do that because he refuses to upset the EU. For globalist Sunak the EU is more important than the UK. You'd give your eye teeth to bankrupt the country. I thought you loved England. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 25, 2023 19:15:29 GMT
Though I would agree that we should be doing all we can to stop the boats ,That Sunak needs replacing the fella Tice is proving to be a bit of a twat . The right wing alternative to the mainstream parties deserves better The acts he quotes as the ammunition we should be using to turn the boats back to France don't actually say anything about Asylum seekers . I hope someone can point me to the text he is on about (maybe I missed it) because I can't see anything in either that would back him up . Like all side line shouters he can make claims he doesn't have to carry out. Claiming we could take the migrants back to France under maritime law. A total lie. The French would only have to accept them if we took them back and then imperilled them. Total nonsense, for the brainless masses. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 25, 2023 19:24:27 GMT
Though I would agree that we should be doing all we can to stop the boats ,That Sunak needs replacing the fella Tice is proving to be a bit of a twat . The right wing alternative to the mainstream parties deserves better The acts he quotes as the ammunition we should be using to turn the boats back to France don't actually say anything about Asylum seekers . I hope someone can point me to the text he is on about (maybe I missed it) because I can't see anything in either that would back him up . Like all side line shouters he can make claims he doesn't have to carry out. Claiming we could take the migrants back to France under maritime law. A total lie. The French would only have to accept them if we took them back and then imperilled them. Total nonsense, for the brainless masses. You will be voting Rishi then? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 25, 2023 19:26:07 GMT
Dan Wooten really is the most patronising presenter as well as being a liar. Honestly don't understand how anyone can watch him. have yiu heard any of the bbc output recently ? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 25, 2023 19:37:42 GMT
Because the change would mean a Labour Government, or even worse a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP coalition, and our experiences have shown us that Labour Governments permit rapid expansion of the State, a bloated and inefficient public service, a highly taxed industry and citizens, profligate waste of public money, and with the additional benefits of woke and the cancel culture they will be able to run riot. They have made their policy of open door immigration, all welcome and no questions asked and everyone will be made to feel guilty if they don't much like transvestites. That is why it is a bad thing. Indeed. Misgendering trans people could become a HATE CRIME under Labour according to new report warning of 'serious implications' for free speechwww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12436597/Misgendering-trans-people-HATE-CRIME-Labour-according-new-report-warning-implications-free-speech.htmlbetter men have tried to scare me and failed and some had guns As a qualified certified biologist albeit a molecular one, if your species has two separate sexes then you are either the one closest to that whose equipment you sport, or a eunuch. Chopping your equipment off taking weird steroids and wearing a dress doesn’t make you a she, at best it makes you an ‘it’ and a bloody ugly one I know a few former men who have trodden this path and told each this plus the fact they are in reality the ugliest ‘woman’ i’ve seen and unlike certain female IMPERSONATORS who frankly the more i drink the more plausibly female they look, but can’t hold a candle to the real women i came in with, the former men i knew who went down this path wouldn’t have this ability after six bottles of pussers rum And if that’s a hate crime send in the effing gestapo…. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 25, 2023 19:51:52 GMT
But you were presenting Sunak over Truss as some democratic outrage. At least Tory MPs were elected by the electorate. Tory members were elected by nobody yet inflicted the worst Post War Prime Minister on us all. Tory poll ratings fell off a cliff as she trashed the economy and Sunak has yet to regain the trust of the electorate destroyed by Johnson lies and Truss incompetence. As for the bulk of Tory backbenchers wanting Johnson back or credible economists saying she was right - pure GB News fantasy . For the sake of your own sanity, you really do need to stop allowing them to control your thought so readily. It wasn't Truss who trashed Sterling - it was Sunak. It's true that the Truss/Kwarteng budget was tone deaf (mainly because of the scrapping of the top rate of tax) but the actual cost of the giveaways was quite small - and it was at least a pro-growth budget. And, if you remember, it was in fact quite well received initially. But Sunak saw his opportunity to attack Truss and said that the giveaways would crash the bond market, lead to 6% interest rates and trash Sterling. That was an "exocet" because Sunak is quite well regarded in the City and "confidence" is a very important thing. Traders rapidly began selling Sterling forcing up interest rates and forcing the BoE to step in and buy bonds. Sunak must have known this would happen - it was obvious. But if you look at the mess we're now in we have interest rates of virtually 6% and the bond market hasn't recovered. Yet we have done nothing to open up our economy or encourage growth - and we have a Corporation Tax rate of 25% (to keep the EU happy). Well done Sunak. He knifed Boris in the back and he destroyed Truss. And for what? He has no vision of what to do at all. He just craved position and power. So we're now just drifting rudderless with no idea of what to do about any of our problems. Completely wrong. It was the international money lenders that balked at Trusses crazy ideas. They who sunk truss |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 25, 2023 19:59:38 GMT
'she trashed the economy' - LOL, get a grip of yourself..  Of course she did. We are borrowed up to our necks and she represented our government. The international money lenders look for stable and sensible leadership. |
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