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Post by Bentley on Aug 28, 2023 15:45:23 GMT
Lol. More projection . I suspect thereβs even more coming.π OK Mr. Projection, I have no answer to repeated schoolyard replies The projector is your title . You have earned Mr Assumption too. π
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Post by see2 on Aug 28, 2023 16:08:24 GMT
OK Mr. Projection, I have no answer to repeated schoolyard replies The projector is your title . You have earned Mr Assumption too. π Chuckle chuckle, you draw up conclusions in your own mind (they belong to you) and then you project your conclusions as assumptions onto the party goers. Its so obvious and so easy to see. Except for someone who has no wish to see. But maybe you can see it now, or perhaps you really do not understand what projection is, eh, Mr. Projection??
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Post by Bentley on Aug 28, 2023 16:09:45 GMT
The projector is your title . You have earned Mr Assumption too. π Chuckle chuckle, you draw up conclusions in your own mind (they belong to you) and then you project your conclusions as assumptions onto the party goers. Its so obvious and so easy to see. Except for someone who has no wish to see. But maybe you can see it now, or perhaps you really do not understand what projection is, eh, Mr. Projection?? Your post is classic projection. Mr Assumption .π
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2023 20:29:34 GMT
I have no idea why Emily Wilcock died, and an attempt to link it with jabs is pointless. It may even have been suicide, we do not know. However this "David Icke" sleight is a favourite of yours to throw at anyone who distrusts mRNA jabs. You seem obsessed with Mr Icke, are you a fan of his? You see, I haven't read a thing that man has said or written since he apparently said he was the "Son of God" around 30 years ago. I have no idea where he stands on any of this stuff. You'll be using Bridgen's name next, perhaps? Bridgen is another nutjob too but Icke was one of the early prominent anti vaxxers. Here have some of his dafter claims addressed by FullFact fullfact.org/online/david-icke-makes-false-claim-that-vaccines-are-gene-therapy/ Like I said, you seem obsessed with Icke. I'm not interested in your link, as I don't care about him one iota.
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Post by Steve on Aug 28, 2023 20:33:46 GMT
You should care about the issues that false stories about vaccines cause. People die
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Post by Bentley on Aug 28, 2023 20:57:57 GMT
Hereβs the thing. I worked in a hospital when COVID kicked off. It killed people , it killed weak people by the ward load. No one knew what the fuck to do. The PPE was crap and scarce. Porters and bed cleaners were unknowingly carrying the virus from ward to ward . Old people were sent to care homes and died . People were put on respirators and died . The vaccine changed that . It gave us hope and it gave us resistance to COVID . Conspiracies aside , it saved a lot of people imo .
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Post by Steve on Aug 28, 2023 21:03:02 GMT
Lockdowns were unpleasant and hugely expensive but prevented personal and societal disasters by buying us vital time to get the vaccines Vaccines have a very small net risk to a few but prevented personal and societal disasters by buying us vital time til weaker variants allowed herd immunity If I could buy a private jab tomorrow I'd get one but the bastards won't let me, that's the government authoritative failure I'd question.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2023 21:03:04 GMT
You should care about the issues that false stories about vaccines cause. People die Yes they do, Steve, all the time. It's life.
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Post by Steve on Aug 28, 2023 21:09:58 GMT
You should care about the issues that false stories about vaccines cause. People die Yes they do, Steve, all the time. It's life. And life is precious In the 2 years from June 1st 2021, 96,998 people died of Covid in the UK having not been vaccinated. if only one of those was because they believed that crap people post about the vaccines being net dangerous then that would be outrageous. But we know it's far more.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2023 21:13:11 GMT
Yes they do, Steve, all the time. It's life. And life is precious In the 2 years from June 1st 2021, 96,998 people died of Covid in the UK having not been vaccinated. if only one of those was because they believed that crap people post about the vaccines being net dangerous then that would be outrageous. But we know it's far more. Life is precious and they all end in death. For those with Covid at about 82 years of age, average. Funnily enough, for those without Covid at about 82 years of age, average. Death at 82 is not tragic, anything over 70 is a bonus, Steve.
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Post by sheepy on Aug 28, 2023 21:16:08 GMT
Lockdowns were unpleasant and hugely expensive but prevented personal and societal disasters by buying us vital time to get the vaccines Vaccines have a very small net risk to a few but prevented personal and societal disasters by buying us vital time til weaker variants allowed herd immunity If I could buy a private jab tomorrow I'd get one but the bastards won't let me, that's the government authoritative failure I'd question. If you say so, but it if you could explain why so many athletes dropped like flies and are still doing so and why I have to get a 13 tear old boy returned from Spain after a heart attack it would be useful instead of telling me about the family probably didn't read the insurance small print or get the right one.
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Post by sheepy on Aug 28, 2023 21:18:11 GMT
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Post by Steve on Aug 28, 2023 21:29:07 GMT
Lockdowns were unpleasant and hugely expensive but prevented personal and societal disasters by buying us vital time to get the vaccines Vaccines have a very small net risk to a few but prevented personal and societal disasters by buying us vital time til weaker variants allowed herd immunity If I could buy a private jab tomorrow I'd get one but the bastards won't let me, that's the government authoritative failure I'd question. If you say so, but it if you could explain why so many athletes dropped like flies and are still doing so and why I have to get a 13 tear old boy returned from Spain after a heart attack it would be useful instead of telling me about the family probably didn't read the insurance small print or get the right one. Depends what you mean by 'so many' AFAIK it's actually only a few. Anyone that watched those awful moments with Christian Eriksen knows very well that even the fittest athletes can suffer Sudden Arrhythmic Death Syndrome from previously undetected conditions and how lucky he was it happened where life saving care was prompt and in an age where implanted defibrillators are a reality. But don't take my word for it, here's a peer reviewed study on the matter: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6159403/ 'Physical activity confers substantial health benefits to healthy individuals and patients alike. Occasionally, however, exercise may act as a trigger for arrhythmic death in athletes who harbor an occult pathological substrate.'
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Post by sheepy on Aug 28, 2023 21:32:31 GMT
If you say so, but it if you could explain why so many athletes dropped like flies and are still doing so and why I have to get a 13 tear old boy returned from Spain after a heart attack it would be useful instead of telling me about the family probably didn't read the insurance small print or get the right one. Depends what you mean by 'so many' AFAIK it's actually only a few. Anyone that watched those awful moments with Christian Eriksen knows very well that even the fittest athletes can suffer Sudden Arrhythmic Death Syndrome from previously undetected conditions and how lucky he was it happened where life saving care was prompt and in an age where implanted defibrillators are a reality. But don't take my word for it, here's a peer reviewed study on the matter: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6159403/ 'Physical activity confers substantial health benefits to healthy individuals and patients alike. Occasionally, however, exercise may act as a trigger for arrhythmic death in athletes who harbor an occult pathological substrate.'No spike then after having a vaccine? Just a normal everyday occurrence? just a little education for a moment before I go deeper in the rabbit hole, the chance of it occurring normally is between 1in 40 thousand and 1 in 80 thousand so quite a wide range.
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Post by Steve on Aug 28, 2023 21:49:16 GMT
Of course if you are one of the few particularly sensitive to Covid then the days immediately after a vaccine will be higher risk to you. But a lot less risk than catching Covid from unvaccinated masses
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