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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 13:53:58 GMT
Appeal for witnesses to double stabbing in Clapham - link Read the link and ask yourself a question: what's missing from the police appeal? That's right, a description of the attacker. But surely I hear you cry, a description of the attacker is a critical bit of information. Well no actually it's not, not any more. Years ago cases like this always carried a brief description of the assailant, something like this... ...'white male 5'10" short dark hair wearing jeans and dark hoodie'. But these days the police are loathe to issue descriptions if the assailant is IC3 or IC4, black or Asian to you and I. Which of course means for the vast majority of street crime descriptions of the assailants are no longer issued. Perish the thought it may cause offence.
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Post by dappy on Aug 14, 2023 14:00:03 GMT
How man y times do you need the same thing explained to you.
What you have is an appeal for witnesses. Any witness prepared to come forward already knows a description of the assailant - they were a witness. The police presumably already have CCTV images.
Once again as so often, you are desperately trying to find yet more fuel for your race based outrage addiction.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 14, 2023 14:10:13 GMT
How man y times do you need the same thing explained to you. What you have is an appeal for witnesses. Any witness prepared to come forward already knows a description of the assailant - they were a witness. The police presumably already have CCTV images. Once again as so often, you are desperately trying to find yet more fuel for your race based outrage addiction. What if you did not see the attack but were watching his movements prior to the attack. The classic is you were a shop keeper and some shifty guy buys a large knife.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 14:17:22 GMT
How man y times do you need the same thing explained to you. What you have is an appeal for witnesses. Any witness prepared to come forward already knows a description of the assailant - they were a witness. The police presumably already have CCTV images. Once again as so often, you are desperately trying to find yet more fuel for your race based outrage addiction. I agree, the police will have a description of the assailant from the victims, from onlookers and CCTV. So why do you suppose they refuse to release the assailants description to the public? At the very least I would have thought it was in the interests of public safety for people to have a description of a double knife attacker who is at large in the hood.
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Post by dappy on Aug 14, 2023 14:22:00 GMT
For all the reasons patiently explained to you last time you raised exactly the same point Red.
You just want to know whether this is an incident you should care about.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 14:34:34 GMT
For all the reasons patiently explained to you last time you raised exactly the same point Red. You just want to know whether this is an incident you should care about. Stop prevaricating FFS. I ask again, why do you suppose the police refuse to release the assailants description to the public? You just cant bring yourself to say it can you, lol.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 14:46:01 GMT
Descriptions only tend to be published after assailants have been arrested, charged, convicted and sentenced. For example - link
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Post by dappy on Aug 14, 2023 14:58:50 GMT
What is the point of going over the same ground again when you simply ignore it and repost exactly the same horseshit again. You seem to live in groundhog day.
You want to know whether the assailant in this case has brown skin so you can decide whether to be outraged or not. The police judge there is no need for their investigation of an incident in London for an inhabitant of Crapsville Staffordshire to know that at present. If that changes they will tell you. What they do need now is people who saw the incident to dell them what they saw
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 14, 2023 15:11:12 GMT
How man y times do you need the same thing explained to you. What you have is an appeal for witnesses. Any witness prepared to come forward already knows a description of the assailant - they were a witness. The police presumably already have CCTV images. Once again as so often, you are desperately trying to find yet more fuel for your race based outrage addiction. I agree, the police will have a description of the assailant from the victims, from onlookers and CCTV. So why do you suppose they refuse to release the assailants description to the public? At the very least I would have thought it was in the interests of public safety for people to have a description of a double knife attacker who is at large in the hood. I think they need to balance the ethnic diversity up in the arrest records. Too many blacks arrested might be prejudicial.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 15:18:22 GMT
What is the point of going over the same ground again when you simply ignore it and repost exactly the same horseshit again. You seem to live in groundhog day. You want to know whether the assailant in this case has brown skin so you can decide whether to be outraged or not. The police judge there is no need for their investigation of an incident in London for an inhabitant of Crapsville Staffordshire to know that at present. If that changes they will tell you. What they do need now is people who saw the incident to dell them what they saw No Dappy, if I lived in a wonderfully multicultural and diverse area I would want to know if the police were hunting another gunman/knifeman in the hood, and I would definately want the police to issue a description, like they used to, so people could if they saw him identify him and contact the police! Who knew. You know as well as everyone else that the police no longer issue descriptions because in some areas black youths are massively overrepresented when it comes to street crime and stabbings and the police don't want to appear 'racist'. As for your childish little outburst, there are indeed some areas of Staffordshire that could reasonably be described as 'Crapsville', and I'm sure you will be unsurprised to learn they are areas that are regarded to be wonderfully multicultural and diverse. Areas of Stoke spring to mind. However you will be disappointed to learn that Rackham Towers is in very leafy area of Staffs that is not at all multicultural or diverse, thank god.
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Post by dappy on Aug 14, 2023 15:25:22 GMT
Its London FFS. 10m people live there. What possible use is it to any inhabitant of London to know that the assailant in this case is say 5ft 10 - 6ft 1, say 20-30 years old with say black skin. What do you expect them to do - cross the road every time they see someone of that description. Call the police if they see a young black guy just in case its the right bloke?
The police need witnesses to the incident to build their case for when it goes to court. That is what they have asked for.
Why do you need the same thing explained over and over again to you?
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 15:28:12 GMT
I agree, the police will have a description of the assailant from the victims, from onlookers and CCTV. So why do you suppose they refuse to release the assailants description to the public? At the very least I would have thought it was in the interests of public safety for people to have a description of a double knife attacker who is at large in the hood. I think they need to balance the ethnic diversity up in the arrest records. Too many blacks arrested might be prejudicial. Indeed, political correctness trumps common sense and facts every time.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 15:30:09 GMT
Its London FFS. 10m people live there. What possible use is it to any inhabitant of London to know that the assailant in this case is say 5ft 10 - 6ft 1, say 20-30 years old with say black skin. What do you expect them to do - cross the road every time they see someone of that description. Call the police if they see a young black guy just in case its the right bloke? The police need witnesses to the incident to build their case for when it goes to court. That is what they have asked for. Why do you need the same thing explained over and over again to you? Why do you suppose the police 'used to' routinely issue the descriptions of assailants they were looking for?
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Post by dappy on Aug 14, 2023 15:30:52 GMT
Because they didnt have CCTV
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 15:35:15 GMT
Because they didnt have CCTV What? Are you being intentionally dim? How does CCTV footage which the police refuse to release, help the public identify an assailant?
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